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apploarcher
Level I

How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

Hi, I have a problem where I want to formulate a new column as a benchmark to all other countries. If there are more rows for the country, I want to take the max value of it as the benchmark. See the example below for clarification.

 

Data kind of looks like this:
Country       Value         period       

A                  10              201301         

A                  30              201301          

B                  20              201301          

C                  50              201301

D                  40              201301

 

What I want to achieve (with cell formula): Col Maximum (:value, :period, :country) where :country == "A"

Output:

Country       Value         period        BenchMark

A                  10              201301          30

A                  30              201301          30

B                  20              201301          30

C                  50              201301          30

D                  40              201301          30

 

As you can see, I want to benchmark the max value of only country A.

I tried Col Maximum (:value, :period, :country == "A") and it will return "50"

Col Maximum (:value, :period, :country) and Col Maximum (:value, :period, :country == "A") both returns "50"

 

I am pretty sure there's a simple solution for this!

 

Hope you guys can help!

 

Thanks thanks!

18 REPLIES 18
txnelson
Super User

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

Col Maximum() is only viable in a formula, where a separage result per row is the output.  To do what you want, use the Summarize() function.

See:

     Help==>Scripting Index==>Summarize

Jim
wu
wu
Level III

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

thanks.
hogi
Level XI

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

Interesting question - sill waiting for an answer?

 

There is a set of posts with similar questions how to restrict the Col ... aggregation functions to a specific subset.
(mainly: restrict them to the subset of non-excluded rows)
Compute Column Mean while restricting observations used 

JMP10: Col Max() and Col Min() functions returned the data from excluded row 

Col Functions and Row States 

 

The idea: 

If one is interested in the mean height, one can aggregate over all rows - or one can aggreate male and female entries separately.

For the second one the solution is almost as easy as for the first one: just use an additional GroupBy variable to split between wanted and unwanted data.

 

But, what a user often needs in addition: the values should  show up in all respective rows (i.e. also for female).
[The example with the benchmark column in the original post illustrates why such a behavior could make sense.]

With the GroupBy, it's easy to get the correct values - but how to distribute them over ALL rows.

 

If there is something like a lookup table behinde a Col ... aggregation function, the function uses the same identifier
1) to split rows to different groups for aggregation ("M" / "F"):
    Judy is female, the weight in Judy's row should be included in female mean weight
2) as index when reading an entry from the lookup table ("M" / "F"):
    Judy is female, the new column should contain female mean weight in Judy's row

 

So, either male and female get the same values, because the identifier is the same (mean1) - or they get different values because the identifier is different (mean2).

ergo: 
A Jmp user can use the GroupBy feature to remove values from the calculation via:

- calculate different values for different subgroups
- dump the unwanted results
but then he gets
- get different values for different subgroups
for free - even if the he did not order this option (OK, the code tells another story - but let's  think about what the user wanted) 

 

Is there a one-line command to remove female from the mean calculation, but to write the values into the respective rows with "female"?

 

 

Names Default to Here(1);
dt = Open( "$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp" );

dt << New Column("mean1", Formula(Col Mean(:weight, :age)));
dt << New Column("mean2", Formula(Col Mean(:weight, :age, :sex)));
dt << New Column("mean2", Formula(If(:sex=="M", Col Mean(:weight, :age, :sex))));

dtM = dt << subset( Rows( dt << get rows where( :sex== "M" ) ), selected columns( 0 ));
dtM << New Column("mean_M", Formula(Col Mean(:weight, :age)));
dt << Update(
	With( dtM ),
	Match Columns(:age = :age ),
	Add Columns from Update Table( :mean_M ),
	Replace Columns in Main Table( None )
);

 

hogi
Level XI

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition


@hogi wrote:

Is there a one-line command to remove female from the mean calculation, but to write the values into the respective rows with "female"?

 

I mean, something like:

Col Mean( :weight, :age, where( :sex == "M" ) )

?

txnelson
Super User

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

Apply an If() to the :weight column in the equation

txnelson_0-1670095673215.png

col Mean( if(:sex=="M", :weight,.), :age)

 

Jim
hogi
Level XI

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

Fantastic!

And so logic - when you see it!


I am very disappointed with myself that I did not find this solution on my own.

hogi
Level XI

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

Hm, after some enthusiasm, I got a little grounded.

 

Seems that the if inside the Col Aggregation makes it very slow - especially if there is a character comparison inside the if - and especially x 2 if there is a char(num) conversion. Then the time scales ~ quadratic with increasing table size.

 

The good thing: Col Median (which I use most of the time) is not affected by this "bug"

Is there any easy solution for Col Min, max, mean ...?

If not, I will write a wish to implement an official way to calculate Col xyz  with a where condition ...

Would be much faster if the data set was first reduced (where) and then aggregated (Col xyz) and then the values distributed over all respective rows.

 

hogi_1-1675014209216.png

 

View more...
Names Default To Here( 1 );
If( Is Empty( mydt ),
	mydt = Open( "$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp" )
);
trialRun = 0;
tryAgain = Function( {},
	trialRun += 1;
	Rownumbers = N Rows( mydt );
	t1 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col A", Formula( Col Mean( :weight ), :sex ) );
	t2 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col B", Formula( Col Mean( If( :age == 12, :weight, . ), :sex ) ) );
	t3 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col C", Formula( Col Mean( If( :sex == "M", :weight, . ), :age ) ) );
	t4 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col D", Formula( Col Mean( If( Char( :age ) == "12", :weight, . ), :age ) ) );
	t5 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col E", Formula( Char( :age ) == "12" ) );
	t6 = HP Time();

	tt1 = Round( (t2 - t1) / 1000000, 4 );
	tt2 = Round( (t3 - t2) / 1000000, 4 );
	tt3 = Round( (t4 - t3) / 1000000, 4 );
	tt4 = Round( (t5 - t4) / 1000000, 4 );
	tt5 = Round( (t6 - t5) / 1000000, 6 );

	If( trialRun == 1,
		tt1Ref = tt1;
		tt2Ref = tt2;
		tt3Ref = tt3;
		tt4Ref = tt4;
		tt5Ref = tt5;
		RNref = Rownumbers;
	);
	tr1 = Round( tt1 / tt1Ref );
	tr2 = Round( tt2 / tt2Ref );
	tr3 = Round( tt3 / tt3Ref );
	tr4 = Round( tt4 / tt4Ref );
	tr5 = Round( tt5 / tt5Ref );
	RNratio = Round( RowNumbers / RNref );

	Wait( 0.1 );
	Try( mydt << delete columns( "col A", "col B", "col C", "col D", "col E" ) );
	Wait( 0.1 );
	mydt = mydt << Concatenate( mydt, mydt, mydt );
	Wait( 0.1 );
	If(
		ex = New Window( "results",
			<<Type( "Modal Dialog" ),
			<<Return Result,
			V List Box(
				Panel Box( "timing results: " || Char( Rownumbers ) || " rows (x" || Char( RNratio ) || ")",
					Lineup Box( N Col( 3 ),
						Text Box( "col min(groupBy)" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt1 ) || " s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr1 ) || ")" ),
						Text Box( "col min(If(numeric),groupBy)" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt2 ) || " s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr2 ) || ")" ),
						Text Box( "col min(If(character),groupBy)" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt3 ) || " s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr3 ) || ")" ),
						Text Box( "col min(If(char(num)),groupBy)" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt4 ) || " s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr4 ) || ")" ),
						Text Box( "char(num)" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt5 ) || "s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr5 ) || ")" ), 

					),
					Text Box( "\!nTable length increased by a factor x4!\!nAre you brave?\!nThen let's add the rows again ..." ),
					H List Box( Button Box( "OK" ), Button Box( "Cancel" ) )
				)
			)
		);
		ex["button"] == 1;
	,
		tryAgain()
	);
);

tryAgain();

 

In a previous version I had "ms" in the table instead if seconds.

hogi
Level XI

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

An approach to speed things up by orders of magnitudes (!!!):

Instead of the very slow Col Mean with the character comparison inside the if statement:

mydt << New Column( "col C", Formula( Col Mean( If( :name=="Robert", :weight, . ), :age ) ) );

use @cwillden 's trick: use the comparison as a GroupBy argument:
Solved: Re: Get Rows that satisfy a condition within a column formula - JMP User Community

mydt << New Column( "col C", Formula(if(:name=="Robert" , Col Mean(  :weight, :age, :name=="Robert" ),. ) );

to split the data in 2 groups: wanted and unwanted data  (screenshot below with @10k rows ->  Factor 2000 faster

..  and then remove the unwanted results via the if statement outside of the Col Mean aggregation.

With the comparison for the column :sex this approach would be over-engineered; this is why I switched to the :name comparison to illustrate the concept.
This is also kind of over-engineered, but I hope the idea gets clear

hogi_0-1675013952162.png

View more...
Names Default To Here( 1 );
If( Is Empty( mydt ),
	mydt = Open( "$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp" )
);
trialRun = 0;
tryAgain = Function( {},
	trialRun += 1;
	Rownumbers = N Rows( mydt );
	t2 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col B", Formula(If(:name=="Robert" , Col Mean( :weight,  :age, :name=="Robert" ),.) ) );
	t3 = HP Time();
	mydt << New Column( "col C", Formula( Col Mean( If( :name == "Robert", :weight, . ), :age ) ) );
	t4 = HP Time();


	tt2 = Round( (t3 - t2) / 1000000, 4 );
	tt3 = Round( (t4 - t3) / 1000000, 4 );

	If( trialRun == 1,
		tt2Ref = tt2;
		tt3Ref = tt3;
		RNref = Rownumbers;
	);
	tr2 = Round( tt2 / tt2Ref );
	tr3 = Round( tt3 / tt3Ref );

	RNratio = Round( RowNumbers / RNref );

	Wait( 0.1 );
	Try( mydt << delete columns( "col B", "col C") );
	Wait( 0.1 );
	mydt = mydt << Concatenate( mydt, mydt, mydt );
	Wait( 0.1 );
	If(
		ex = New Window( "results",
			<<Type( "Modal Dialog" ),
			<<Return Result,
			V List Box(
				Panel Box( "timing results: " || Char( Rownumbers ) || " rows (x" || Char( RNratio ) || ")",
					Lineup Box( N Col( 3 ),
						Text Box( "if(col min(groupBy,Charcomparison))" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt2 ) || " s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr2 ) || ")" ),
						Text Box( "col min(If(character),groupBy)" ),
						Text Box( Char( tt3 ) || " s" ),
						Text Box( "(x" || Char( tr3 ) || ")" ) 

					),
					Text Box( "\!nTable length increased by a factor x4!\!nAre you brave?\!nThen let's add the rows again ..." ),
					H List Box( Button Box( "OK" ), Button Box( "Cancel" ) )
				)
			)
		);
		ex["button"] == 1;
	,
		tryAgain()
	);
);

tryAgain();




hogi
Level XI

Re: How do I use the Col Maximum Formula with a "where" condition

I just noticed:

  1. the trick doesn't work for
    :name=="Robert"
    seems to be a special case -  the comparison is just ignored (in Jmp 16 & 17.1).
    strange ...

  2. With all the enthusiasm about the new possibilities (using conditions (!) as GroupBy) and about the speed improvement, I completely missed that I more or less came back to where I started: Col aggregation with Group By options.
    So, I didn't reach my actual goal: filling "the other" rows with values, as explained here:
    How-do-I-use-the-Col-Maximum-Formula-with-a-quot-where-quot/m-p/571889/highlight/true#M78145 

    But there is a workaround: instead of a slow
     New Column( "newcol", Formula(Col Mean( if(:sex=="M",:weight,.),  :age ) ));
    take care that there are just Group By options inside slow Col Mean
    ... then use the fast Col Median to spread the values to the other rows:
     New Column( "newcol", Formula(Col Median(If(:sex =="M" ,Col Mean( :weight,  :age, :sex),.),:age) ));

 

In addition: the topic got some attention from the Jmp Development team:

Col Median (and others): add "Where" option 

@SamGardner wrote:
Status changed to: We like it! (in the queue)

 ...  we work on ways to improve how Where( ) clauses are used throughout JMP.

Seems that soon there will be a much easier solution for the problem