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DOE_USER
Level II

Set up DOE with symmetry

I want to set up a DOE with categorical variables. There are two variables (X1, X2) with the same categories (L1, L2, L3, ...) and the problem is L1L2 is the same as L2L1. That is if X1=L1 and X2=L2, then the experiment is same if X1=L2 and X2=L1. This is true for all other combinations too. How can I set up DOE that recognizes this? I tried using constraints, but I don't know how to add this.

 

Thank you for your help,

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Phil_Kay
Staff

Re: Set up DOE with symmetry

@Jed_Campbell 's solutions could work. You could also do this using Disallowed Combinations in Custom Design. Here is the script for the disallowed combinations for 2 factors, each with 3 levels:

 

X1 == "L1" & X2 == "L2" | X1 == "L3" & X2 == "L2" | X1 == "L1" & X2 == "L3"

You can specify this with the Disallowed Combinations Filter in Custom Design:

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I think that will work but it yields a fairly horrible looking design (attached). I still don't know enough about your experimental objectives to really know, but I have a strong feeling that this way of defining the factors is going to be a problem. I have never seen an example like this. But, again, I don't know enough about what you are trying to achieve.

 

DOE_USER
Level II

Re: Set up DOE with symmetry

Thank you Phil_Kay. I will explore what you have written, but I understand your solution. Let me see if it looks okay in the end.

Phil_Kay
Staff

Re: Set up DOE with symmetry

Okay. Simulating some data and then fitting a model might be a good idea to check it all makes sense. I find that is the best way to be sure when there are unusual constraints on the experiment like this.