cancel
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Choose Language Hide Translation Bar
frankderuyck
Level VI

Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect

With profiler it is not possible to use a categorical noise effect? Is there another way to specify robust process settings?

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions
Victor_G
Super User

Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

From what I understand from your situation, there may be several options available :

  1. You can consider your categorical factor as a random effect (or noise), as you're interested on the variance caused by this factor, not by the change on the mean response.
  2. You can also use the Simulator, to add random noise to a categorical factor and assess how this may change the response distribution.

For the suggestion 1), I used the sample dataset "DOE Example 1" in the JMP sample index (in DoE). I changed the design role property of "Operator" to "Random Block", and run a model with the following effects :

Victor_G_0-1695799383275.png

I end up with a Profiler that takes into account the variability introduced by the random effect "Operator" :

Victor_G_1-1695799441515.png

If using the profiler with Operator as a categorical fixed effect (or if set up as random effect, I can click on the red triangle next to the profiler, and make "Operator" factor appears by clicking on "Conditional Predictions"), I can use the Simulator, specify the type of noise (here I choose "Random" with a probability of 50% for each operator) and then click on Simulate :

Victor_G_2-1695799624400.png

The two approaches are conceptually different (a random effect suppose that these 2 operators are part of a bigger, unknown population which may also impact the variance of the results, whereas the Simulator uses only these 2 possible options to compute the results distribution) and lead to different results, so depending on your topic you may find one more relevant than the other.

I hope this will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Scientific Expertise Engineer
L'Oréal - Data & Analytics

View solution in original post

4 REPLIES 4
Byron_JMP
Staff

Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect

Effects or Responses

JMP Systems Engineer, Health and Life Sciences (Pharma)
frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect

Find robust process settings for a categorical noise factor on a continuous response

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

From what I understand from your situation, there may be several options available :

  1. You can consider your categorical factor as a random effect (or noise), as you're interested on the variance caused by this factor, not by the change on the mean response.
  2. You can also use the Simulator, to add random noise to a categorical factor and assess how this may change the response distribution.

For the suggestion 1), I used the sample dataset "DOE Example 1" in the JMP sample index (in DoE). I changed the design role property of "Operator" to "Random Block", and run a model with the following effects :

Victor_G_0-1695799383275.png

I end up with a Profiler that takes into account the variability introduced by the random effect "Operator" :

Victor_G_1-1695799441515.png

If using the profiler with Operator as a categorical fixed effect (or if set up as random effect, I can click on the red triangle next to the profiler, and make "Operator" factor appears by clicking on "Conditional Predictions"), I can use the Simulator, specify the type of noise (here I choose "Random" with a probability of 50% for each operator) and then click on Simulate :

Victor_G_2-1695799624400.png

The two approaches are conceptually different (a random effect suppose that these 2 operators are part of a bigger, unknown population which may also impact the variance of the results, whereas the Simulator uses only these 2 possible options to compute the results distribution) and lead to different results, so depending on your topic you may find one more relevant than the other.

I hope this will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Scientific Expertise Engineer
L'Oréal - Data & Analytics
frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect

Very useful Victor, thanks!