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Apr 27, 2013 5:50 PM
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Hello,

I am trying to set up a design in the following way:

Custom Design | ||

Factor | Type | Level |

Drop Height | Discrete Numeric | 3 |

Size | Discrete Numeric | 3 |

Material | Categorical | 2 |

Replicates | Blocks | 3 |

As mentioned I am using the custom design option, and using 18 runs per block. And I have 3 response variable and a total of 54 total runs. The problem I am facing is that when JMP is making the design table, the distribution of levels is not unique. Sometime times there are more than 3 replicates for a certain level, some level 2 of the discrete numeric factors are getting skipped. I have included the following along with this most:

1) Custom Design - JMP - Full Model: This is the actual project model based on the table mentioned above. The highlighted items are the ones that are getting unnecessarily duplicated

2) Custom Design_Vikram : This is the JMP project file, which I quickly setup to show that level 2 is missing for discrete numeric factors X1 and X2.

Can you please suggest the correct way to deal with this?

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I'm not sure what is going on. You have not changed the model terms have you? There are some "if possible" terms that are required to drive the model.

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Re: Help with Custom Design

Vikram,

I had no problem obtaining a balanced design with your conditions. I just increased the number os starts (under the red triangle) to 1000 and all three of my blocks and also set my user specified run number = 54 and I had a balance of the discrete numeric factors and categorical factors.

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Thanks for your reply. Did you use the custom design option? One thing I did not do is use the number of starts as 1000, as you mentioned.

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Re: Help with Custom Design

I changed the start to a 1000, but still I am not getting the correct design. I have copied the custom design tab in this post. If you see for discrete numeric variables X1 and X2 level 2 is missing. Thanks.

Design

Run X1 X2 X3 X4

1 1 1 L2 2

2 1 1 L2 2

3 3 1 L2 3

4 3 1 L2 3

5 3 3 L2 1

6 3 3 L2 1

7 3 1 L2 1

8 3 1 L2 2

9 1 3 L1 2

10 3 1 L2 2

11 3 3 L1 2

12 3 1 L1 2

13 1 1 L2 3

14 1 1 L1 2

15 3 1 L1 3

16 3 1 L1 2

17 1 3 L2 2

18 3 3 L1 1

19 3 1 L1 1

20 3 3 L1 3

21 1 3 L2 1

22 3 3 L2 3

23 1 1 L1 2

24 3 3 L1 2

25 3 1 L1 3

26 3 1 L2 1

27 3 3 L2 2

28 1 1 L1 1

29 3 3 L1 3

30 1 1 L1 3

31 1 3 L1 2

32 1 3 L2 1

33 3 3 L2 3

34 1 3 L1 1

35 1 1 L1 3

36 1 1 L1 1

37 1 3 L2 1

38 1 1 L1 1

39 1 1 L2 1

40 3 1 L2 2

41 1 1 L2 1

42 3 3 L1 2

43 3 1 L1 1

44 1 3 L1 1

45 3 3 L2 2

46 3 3 L1 1

47 1 3 L2 3

48 1 3 L1 3

49 1 3 L2 2

50 1 3 L1 3

51 1 3 L2 3

52 1 3 L1 3

53 1 1 L2 3

54 3 1 L1 3

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Re: Help with Custom Design

Did you specify 18 runs per block?

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Yes I did. In custom design when I added the blocking factor, I selected custom of 18 runs per block. Then I selected 3 replicates. To make it 3 runs with 18 runs each to include all treatment combinations in one block.

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I don't think that you need to specify the replicates.

enter your factors

enter your block of 18 runs per block

enter 54 as number of runs

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I tried this just now, following what you mentioned. I did not enter the number of replicates this time. I just entered user defines number of runs as 54. It automatically set 18 runs for each block. But I am still getting the wrong design, where level 2 of discrete factors are missing.

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Re: Help with Custom Design

No I have not changed the model terms. Thanks anyways..