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Comparing sample sets of data already aggregated

Hello,

I am trying to compare the number of rejected units from 2 sample groups with unequal populations. I have read multiple times that the tool to use in JMP for that purpose is the "Fit Y by X", but it doesn't seem to take into account the population difference in my 2 groups (which I put in the Freq. box). How can I do my analysis? And how can I add more parameters to this analysis (I also want to make sure that there is no significant difference between my products)?

 

Here is the data I want to test:

Sample TypeProductQuantityFail1 Qty.Fail2 Qty.Fail Tot.
Sample1Prod1723729
Sample1Prod2796425833
Sample1Prod34651251439
Sample2Prod1484536642
Sample2Prod2163182637123760
Sample2Prod380716381115496

 

 

Best regards,

Samuel Taverne

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Re: Comparing sample sets of data already aggregated

Hi STA,

The trick here is formatting your data differently, which I did by adding one formula column, then stacking the data. Then, the Fit Y by X platform should work for you. I did make an assumption though, that what you were looking for was the difference in total failures by each sample type--if you meant to include Fail 1 Qty and Fail 2 Qty, then you'll need to approach differently.

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Re: Comparing sample sets of data already aggregated

Hi STA,

The trick here is formatting your data differently, which I did by adding one formula column, then stacking the data. Then, the Fit Y by X platform should work for you. I did make an assumption though, that what you were looking for was the difference in total failures by each sample type--if you meant to include Fail 1 Qty and Fail 2 Qty, then you'll need to approach differently.

Jed_Campbell_0-1671463744643.pngJed_Campbell_1-1671463754399.png

Jed_Campbell_2-1671463776275.png

 

 

 

STA
STA
Level I

Re: Comparing sample sets of data already aggregated

Hi Jed,

Thanks for your answer! I also found the  "Two Sample Test for Proportion" and the "Analysis of Means for Proportions" to support my analysis once the fit Y by X was done. The data stacking was not so straight forward, thanks for mentioning how it should be organised.

 

Best regards,

Samuel

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