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JMP Wish List

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consistent marker control in Graph Builder

☑ cool new feature
☑ could help many users!

☑ removes something that feels like a „bug“

☐ nice to have

☐ nobody needs it

 

What inspired this wish list request? 
At the moment, it is not possible to use a specific marker in Graph Builder 

 

There are 2 options in JMP which can be used to assign markers:

a) manually assign a marker via the legend in Graph Builder:

hogi_1-1755247697353.png


a) Row States: this settings allows the user to override the marker setting for specific rows:

hogi_0-1755247597093.png

On the other hand, this setting is overruled by marker settings via the legend.

 

Actually there is a 3rd option to tune the marker settings: via preferences, one can choose a default marker setting

hogi_2-1755247828881.png

 

Surprisingly:

With all these options, there is no possibility available yet in JMP to control the marker settings for a specific plot like:
"In this plot I want to use Hollow markers".

 

Sure, the above 3 options can be used as a workaround to achieve the task - with more or less effort (just imagine there are 75 entries in the legend - and each of them has to be changed individually to prevent collateral effects on other subplots!)

... and with more or less collateral damage to other plots:
1) if the user accidentally selects a legend entry before assigning a new marker state, the new marker will be assigned to all selected entries:

hogi_4-1755248742806.png

So, if you assigned the new marker to 73 entries in the legend, be sure that you don't select an entry when assigning the marker to entry & # 74, 75 !!!)


2) For row states and preferences the collateral impacts on other plots is even more severe.

 

What is the improvement you would like to see? 

Please provide a framework that allows a consistent marker control in Graph Builder.

Something like

Elements( Position( 1, 1 ), Points( X, Y, Color( 1 ), Marker Graph Theme("Hollow") ) )

to pick a specific marker set for a plot.

 

and

Elements( Position( 1, 1 ), Points( X, Y, Color( 1 ), Marker("circle") ) )

to assign the same Marker to all items in a plot.

 

Another way to interpret "consistent marker control" is proposed in this wish:new Column Property: Value Markers 
It suggests a column property to get a consistent link between column entries and the assigned markers.
It could be used as an alternative to the functionality proposed in this wish.

 

Why is this idea important? 

JMP lacks consistent marker control.

 

other wishes from hogi_3-1755248462462.png

3 Comments
Status changed to: Acknowledged

Thank you for submitting this request! 

hogi
Level XIII

Great: part of this wish as already implemented in JMP19 via Type Properties().

What is missing:
a less specific mode like

hogi_0-1765392817889.png

to use hollow markers for a specific plot type - or a similar command to use dashed lines.

Dashed lines: Great advantage for Parallel Y Axis
- color is needed for Overlay - and it's no good practice to paint the axis with color.

hogi
Level XIII

Important: the current interferes significantly with data filter selections and exploratory data analysis.
For more details please check
https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/consistent-marker-and-style-control-type-properties/m-p/917... ff
and Support Ticket TS-00256956

 

The automatic mode is cool: any new item in the plot layer will inherit the settings of the existing items.
But its harmful. So, from my point of view, the automatic mode must be removed.

Instead: please add a functionality that allows the user to pick a setting and use it as type properties:
right click on an entry in the legend -> use as Type property.
This mode is almost as good as the automatic mode - and the users can decide if they want to activate it with the associated risk/ harm for  exploratory data analysis.