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Mathej01
Level III

Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Hi,

 

I made a custom design to understand the impact of caoting temperature and speed on performance. I kept all the parameters same. However, unexpectedly I had to vary the nozzle air pressure for different runs as it was not possible to make the coatings at same air pressure. So, my question here is that how can i include the change in air pressure in the DOE. I cannot afford any more runs.

Is there any possibility to consider the different air pressure or should I just assume that it does not have any affect on final performance(which I am not sure).

 

Is my question clear?

Thanks in advance

 

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Hi @Mathej01,

 

If nozzle air pressure is a new variable in your experimental setup, you can use the values and treat them as an Uncontrolled Factor : "An uncontrolled factor is one whose values cannot be controlled during production, but it is a factor that you want to include in the model. It is assumed that you can record the factor's value for each experimental run."

 

You can simply add a new column in your datatable with your nozzle air pressure values, and add the column properties "Design Role" (Uncontrolled), "Factor Changes" (Easy) and "Coding" (add the min and max values in the low and high values). 

In your model, you can then add this new uncontrolled factor as a main effect to better assess its importance on the response(s) in your experimental setup.

 

I hope this answer will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Scientific Expertise Engineer
L'Oréal - Data & Analytics

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statman
Super User

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Here are my questions and thoughts:

Do you have an actual value for the nozzle air pressure? Was the actual air pressure measured?  How is the nozzle air pressure controlled (e.g., is the a knob you turn?)? If it is by some knob (or other way to control the valve), do you have the reading for that setting?  Is it a continuous variable or categorical?  Did it change for every treatment in the experiment, or did it just change with associated changes in coating temperature and speed?  Be careful with this!  If the changes correlate with certain treatment combinations, you will likely have multicollinearity.

 

While in reality, this variable is controllable, but was just not included in your planned experiment, you have the option of treating that variable as a covariate (usually this is a strategy for handling an uncontrolled variable that can be measured).  When you create the model for the analysis of the experiment, you will have to write a mixed model (that is. fixed effects for the experimental factors and interactions and the covariate as a random variable).  You introduce potential multicollinearity into the analysis.  You will need to check for correlation between the covariate and any of the model terms (fixed effects).  This can be done with correlation matrices (Analyze>Multivariate Methods>Multivariate and enter all of the model terms including the covariate) and/or with VIF's after running Fit Model (right click on the Parameter Estimates table>Columns>VIF).  I suggest you write the model (for Fit Model analysis) with the covariate first and then the fixed effects.  You should test the significance of the covariate with Sequential Tests (red triangle>Estimates>Sequential Tests).

 

Notes to self:

1. Be more thorough in identifying variables before you run your experiment.  I suggest Process Mapping (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08982119908919275) the experiment before running the experiment to identify controllable and noise factors.

2. Before you run any experiment, predict the results you will get.  One reason for this, is this allows you to think through the possible combinations to determine their reasonableness.

 

"To consult the statistician after an experiment is finished is often merely to ask him to conduct a post mortem examination. He can perhaps say what the experiment died of."

 Sir Ronald Fisher

 

"All models are wrong, some are useful" G.E.P. Box

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Hi @Mathej01,

 

If nozzle air pressure is a new variable in your experimental setup, you can use the values and treat them as an Uncontrolled Factor : "An uncontrolled factor is one whose values cannot be controlled during production, but it is a factor that you want to include in the model. It is assumed that you can record the factor's value for each experimental run."

 

You can simply add a new column in your datatable with your nozzle air pressure values, and add the column properties "Design Role" (Uncontrolled), "Factor Changes" (Easy) and "Coding" (add the min and max values in the low and high values). 

In your model, you can then add this new uncontrolled factor as a main effect to better assess its importance on the response(s) in your experimental setup.

 

I hope this answer will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Scientific Expertise Engineer
L'Oréal - Data & Analytics
Mathej01
Level III

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Thanks @Victor_G . It was helpful. Even though it was unexpected, I have values for nozzle air pressure. 

 

Also as a follow up question, can i add it as a noise instead of uncontrolled factor? Does it make sense ?

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

You can just edit the values for Air Pressure to be the actual values and then do the analysis.  It may not be statistically optimal design anymore, but you may still get a useful model.  If you know a bit about design evaluation metrics, you can also use the Evaluate Design tool or the Compare Designs tools (DOE > Design Diagnostics ) to see the impact that the changes in the factor levels have on the confounding in the design.  

Mathej01
Level III

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Thanks @SamGardner . I am not able to compare the designs in this case. 

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

To compare the original design the design "as it was executed", make a copy of the original design, modify the factor settings in the copy, and use Compare Designs to compare the original and the modified design.  

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

If I understood well the topic, it's not a question of not having the correct values of nozzle air pressure in the design, it's a question of not having included it in the design as a factor.
It was supposed to be fixed at a constant value, but this was not possible experimentally, so @Mathej01 did record the actual values to take them into account in the analysis.

 

@Mathej01 The design role "Noise" is only available once your design has been created and the datatable is generated (it's not part of the main factors types in the design creation for Custom Design).  Noise factors are variables that are difficult or expensive to control in production. However, you must be able to control noise factors during the experiment.
You can indeed change the "Uncontrolled" type in the "Noise" type if you're interested in a robust optimization regarding the nozzle air pressure values, meaning having the best and most robust desirability in the presence of a noise factor (= control the response variation due to the noise factor). You can find an example of an optimization with a noise factor here : Example of a Noise Factor in the Prediction Profiler 

 

Hope this will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Scientific Expertise Engineer
L'Oréal - Data & Analytics
statman
Super User

Re: Unexpected change in controlled variable in DOE

Here are my questions and thoughts:

Do you have an actual value for the nozzle air pressure? Was the actual air pressure measured?  How is the nozzle air pressure controlled (e.g., is the a knob you turn?)? If it is by some knob (or other way to control the valve), do you have the reading for that setting?  Is it a continuous variable or categorical?  Did it change for every treatment in the experiment, or did it just change with associated changes in coating temperature and speed?  Be careful with this!  If the changes correlate with certain treatment combinations, you will likely have multicollinearity.

 

While in reality, this variable is controllable, but was just not included in your planned experiment, you have the option of treating that variable as a covariate (usually this is a strategy for handling an uncontrolled variable that can be measured).  When you create the model for the analysis of the experiment, you will have to write a mixed model (that is. fixed effects for the experimental factors and interactions and the covariate as a random variable).  You introduce potential multicollinearity into the analysis.  You will need to check for correlation between the covariate and any of the model terms (fixed effects).  This can be done with correlation matrices (Analyze>Multivariate Methods>Multivariate and enter all of the model terms including the covariate) and/or with VIF's after running Fit Model (right click on the Parameter Estimates table>Columns>VIF).  I suggest you write the model (for Fit Model analysis) with the covariate first and then the fixed effects.  You should test the significance of the covariate with Sequential Tests (red triangle>Estimates>Sequential Tests).

 

Notes to self:

1. Be more thorough in identifying variables before you run your experiment.  I suggest Process Mapping (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08982119908919275) the experiment before running the experiment to identify controllable and noise factors.

2. Before you run any experiment, predict the results you will get.  One reason for this, is this allows you to think through the possible combinations to determine their reasonableness.

 

"To consult the statistician after an experiment is finished is often merely to ask him to conduct a post mortem examination. He can perhaps say what the experiment died of."

 Sir Ronald Fisher

 

"All models are wrong, some are useful" G.E.P. Box