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frankderuyck
Level VI

Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

When setting up a Custom DOE in a training often the trainees get slightly different Experiments fequently resulting in different models after analysis. For non experienced users this is confusing.  I would like that everyone in the class gets the same Experiment after specification of the targe model, is this possible? 

Analysis results can made reproducible when using a Random reset function in the response outcome formula. 

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

There is an option in the Custom design platform that may help you getting reproducible design for your class.

Click on the red triangle next to "Custom Design" and click on "Set Random Seed". If all students have the same value for the seed, they should obtain the same design :

 

Victor_G_0-1699013719858.png

Hope that this option will help you, happy teaching

 

Victor GUILLER
L'Oréal Data & Analytics

"It is not unusual for a well-designed experiment to analyze itself" (Box, Hunter and Hunter)

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

In your datatable, right-click on the script "DOE Dialog" and then "Edit" to read the script :

DOE(
	Custom Design,
	{Add Response( Maximize, "Selectivity", ., ., ., ., ., "%" ),
	Add Factor( Continuous, 200, 250, "Temp", 0, "°C" ),
	Add Factor( Continuous, 9, 25, "O2", 0, "vol%" ),
	Add Factor( Continuous, 0.1, 0.5, "CAT", 0, "m%" ),
	Set Random Seed( 2057741289 ), Number of Starts( 29219 ), Add Term( {1, 0} ),
	Add Term( {1, 1} ), Add Term( {2, 1} ), Add Term( {3, 1} ), Add Term( {1, 2} ),
	Add Term( {1, 1}, {2, 1} ), Add Term( {2, 2} ), Add Term( {1, 1}, {3, 1} ),
	Add Term( {2, 1}, {3, 1} ), Add Term( {3, 2} ), Set Sample Size( 16 ),
	Optimality Criterion( "Make I-Optimal Design" ), Simulate Responses( 0 ),
	Save X Matrix( 0 ), Make Design}
)

You'll see in the script that a random seed has been defined by default so that you can regenerate the same design. In your example, the seed is 2057741289.

 

Hope this answer will help you,

Victor GUILLER
L'Oréal Data & Analytics

"It is not unusual for a well-designed experiment to analyze itself" (Box, Hunter and Hunter)

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

There is an option in the Custom design platform that may help you getting reproducible design for your class.

Click on the red triangle next to "Custom Design" and click on "Set Random Seed". If all students have the same value for the seed, they should obtain the same design :

 

Victor_G_0-1699013719858.png

Hope that this option will help you, happy teaching

 

Victor GUILLER
L'Oréal Data & Analytics

"It is not unusual for a well-designed experiment to analyze itself" (Box, Hunter and Hunter)
frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Works fine, will be a great help to avoid discussions & time loss.. again, thanks a lot Victor!

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

You're welcome @frankderuyck !


I do understand the need for students to have the same design when you are using already collected measurements or publicly available data to create a design and analyze the results.


I don't know which level/class your students are, but since Custom Design is based on a Coordinate-Exchange algorithm to create an optimal design for the assumed model (compared to Classical designs relying on "fixed" textbook designs), it can also be interesting to show them how optimal designs are created, and that for a specific situation, several optimal designs may be created. Even if the experiments may not be the same between several optimal designs, their comparative evaluation can show how similar they are.

 

I attached a JSL script I downloaded once on this Community (don't remember where) about this exchange algorithm, very useful for teaching.

Select all the JSL code, click on "Run". A dialog box will open with the number of runs, time between each step (in sec) and optimality criterion to specify, and once these info included, the script will show you in 2D (X1 and X2) how the algorithm works and moves random points in the experimental space to improve the design based on optimality criterion specified.

I found this script very excellent to convoy a good understanding about how this coordinate-exchange algorithm works.

 

Happy teaching and all the best,

Victor GUILLER
L'Oréal Data & Analytics

"It is not unusual for a well-designed experiment to analyze itself" (Box, Hunter and Hunter)
frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Hi Victor, this indeed can be quite interesting for an advanced DOE course with more seasoned participants. So far my training is at basic/intermediate level so they need first to learn well to drive the car and then in a next step something about the engine. 

Thanks for input!  Frank

frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Where can one find the Random Seed code for a given DOE so it can be reproduced? Attached I added a DOE, what is the Random Seed code?

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

In your datatable, right-click on the script "DOE Dialog" and then "Edit" to read the script :

DOE(
	Custom Design,
	{Add Response( Maximize, "Selectivity", ., ., ., ., ., "%" ),
	Add Factor( Continuous, 200, 250, "Temp", 0, "°C" ),
	Add Factor( Continuous, 9, 25, "O2", 0, "vol%" ),
	Add Factor( Continuous, 0.1, 0.5, "CAT", 0, "m%" ),
	Set Random Seed( 2057741289 ), Number of Starts( 29219 ), Add Term( {1, 0} ),
	Add Term( {1, 1} ), Add Term( {2, 1} ), Add Term( {3, 1} ), Add Term( {1, 2} ),
	Add Term( {1, 1}, {2, 1} ), Add Term( {2, 2} ), Add Term( {1, 1}, {3, 1} ),
	Add Term( {2, 1}, {3, 1} ), Add Term( {3, 2} ), Set Sample Size( 16 ),
	Optimality Criterion( "Make I-Optimal Design" ), Simulate Responses( 0 ),
	Save X Matrix( 0 ), Make Design}
)

You'll see in the script that a random seed has been defined by default so that you can regenerate the same design. In your example, the seed is 2057741289.

 

Hope this answer will help you,

Victor GUILLER
L'Oréal Data & Analytics

"It is not unusual for a well-designed experiment to analyze itself" (Box, Hunter and Hunter)
frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

One more time Thanks Victor!

frankderuyck
Level VI

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Attached a DOE I can't reproduce despite I follow all instructions: when I open the script of this DOE (DOE dialog/Edit) and run it again it gives another Custom DOE?? The new Custom DOE script contains some instructions on aliasing which are not present in the script of the original, attached DOE; what went wrong? 

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Is it possible to make DOE generation reproducible?

Hi @frankderuyck,

 

You're generating the same design as the original one, and an easy way to check this is to click on "Set Random Seed" (in the red triangle next to "Custom Design"), and see that the seed you have fixed earlier is kept on the Custom Design platform: "123".

However the order of the runs is set on "Randomize" :

Victor_G_0-1699517658715.png

So when you click on "Make Table", you'll get the same 24 experiments but ordered in a random manner. For teaching, it might be easier to create a design and fix the run order to "Keep The Same" or other non-randomized settings. This way, you'll get a design that will have the same runs and same runs order when generating it.

 

I checked the alias terms you mentioned, they are the same in the original (using the script "Evaluate Design") and the newly created custom design (on the left original design, on the right the new one) :

Victor_G_1-1699518002743.png

 

I hope this answer will help you and reassure you,

Victor GUILLER
L'Oréal Data & Analytics

"It is not unusual for a well-designed experiment to analyze itself" (Box, Hunter and Hunter)