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CPK - 2 Dimesions

SimonItaly
Level I

Dears,

a "conceptual" question...

If I have a characteristic identified by two factors and the specification limits are defined by an area rather than an interval... is it possible to calculate the CPK?

See the diagram below (invented): blue dots = the specification, orange dots = production.

 

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Is it possible to calculate a CPK?

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

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shampton82
Level VII


Re: CPK - 2 Dimesions

Hey @SimonItaly ,

I have also pondered this question!  I have not found anything readily available but have worked on a possible solution on my own, though it is just a fun side project and nothing formal.  What I did was fit a distribution for the Y axis values and then fit a distribution to the x axis values.  I then simulated a million values using random distributions of the best fit for Y and X.  I then calculated the out of spec percentage from the simulation and aligned that with an out of spec/Ppk curve and reported the Ppk for the out of spec percentage observed.  The main downside to this method is if your out of spec calculation returns zero you get an error.  However, you might just have to up the simulated values from a million to get at least one out of spec value.

 

Not a formal approach but something that I found worked for my situations.  Hope it at least spurs some ideas!

 

Steve

statman
Super User


Re: CPK - 2 Dimesions

Since your question is "conceptual" in nature, I will ask why would you want to calculate the Cpk?  How do you intend on using this?  Sorry, I will admit my bias is such metrics are not very useful.  This due to the following reasons:

1. The enumerative statistics used in the calculation are estimates and how well they describe the true population is often in question (e.g., used a 30 piece sample without any explanation as to how the sample was obtained).  When Cpk's are reported, they are reported as one number even though there is obviously a confidence interval around both of the statistics used in the metric.

2. When the Cpk does not meet your objective, you are left with disaggregating the metric to determine if it is a mean or variation problem.  Why not just "track" those (mean, deviation from target and standard deviation, minimize)?

3. There is often misuse of Cpk's for comparison (e.g., comparing across different products)

4. How often is stability established before Cpk's are reported?

5. Specifications are often inappropriate.

see: 

Gunter, Berton (1989) “The Use and Abuse of Cpk”, Quality Progress, January 1989

 

Can you please supply a real example of the situation you describe, where there is a specification (customer requirement) on the "area"?  

If I understand the situation you describe, could you first understand the relationship between the 2 factors and the response variable (area), then, perhaps using tolerance parallelograms (see Shainin), understand the appropriate specs for each factor and use traditional Cpk for each factor independently?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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frank_wang
Level IV

Re: CPK - 2 Dimesions

My personal feeling is not CPK. But rather a comprehensive evaluation of two indicators.
Suggest considering two dimensional weights and then evaluating after dimensionality reduction. Or use the simplest weighted average analysis.

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