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Graphbuilder: option to rotate - and position - labels

☐ cool new feature
☐ could help many users!

☑ removes something that looks like a bug

☐ nice to have

☐ nobody needs it

 

 

What inspired this wish list request? 

In GraphBuilder, there is an option to add labels "by value" directly inside the graph.

Unfortunately, there is no option to adjust the orientation of the label. Therefore, labels are sometimes hard to read:

How to rotate a label? 

hogi_0-1688023290707.png

 

What is the improvement you would like to see? 

For axis labels and annotation text, there exist options to adjust the orientation.

Please implement a similar option to adjust the orientation of "labels by value."

 

edit:
Please also add an option to control the placement:
Graph Builder Bar Graph Label Offset 

 

Why is this idea important? 

Labels in Bar graphs are often not readable and via the GUI the user doesn't have a chance to fix that.
Just some JSL experts can generate graphs with readable labels.

[the issue got more severe in JMP 18 doe to the new way of label placement]

 

With the new options, any user could make the labels readable 

 

 

more wishes by  hogi_2-1702196401638.png

10 Comments
WebDesignesCrow
Super User

Very important @hogi . Thanks for the ideas.

More often, I returned to Excel charts just because in Excel can rotates the label (options).

hogi
Level XII

yes

https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/How-to-quantify-the-advantage-of-using-JMP-over-other-tools... 

 


@hogi wrote:

The availability of a single feature can have a huge impact on decision making - especially if a feature is just available in the current software and missing/different in Jmp.

A tiny disadvantage/bug/misfunction can balance many benefits.


 

hogi
Level XII

A trick which I just learned from @Byron_JMP  at https://community.jmp.com/t5/Byron-Wingerd-s-Blog/Graph-Builder-Bar-Graph-Label-Offset/bc-p/777978/h... :

DispatchSeg(	BarSeg( 1 ),	Set Font( "", 18, "", 90 )	)

 

 

cool, -> hits the nail.

So, please add a setting in the GUI which implements this trick in the background.

Besides that, it seems that with JMP 18 we lost the chance to put the value labels to the center of the bars.


As an add-on - following the idea of @Byron_JMP 's blopg post:
Graph Builder Bar Graph Label Offset 
-> please also add a control for the placement of the labels


- above the bar [default]
- on top (inside bar)
- center of the bar [like it was possible in JMP 17]

- at the bottom 

hogi
Level XII

hi @Sarah-Sylvestre , I added the second topic: label placement   to the wish.

 

as important as the orientation.

Byron_JMP
Staff

Just as a side note. When I saved this as a preset, it only works on the same data set, if there are more x levels those levels aren't formatted. 

 

hogi
Level XII

Ah, I just found a 2020 wish from @shampton82 with large overlap:

Graph builder bar chart data label control 

 



 

hogi
Level XII

@Sarah-Sylvestre this wish can be marked as duplicate.

@StratifiedTree2 , @LongitudinalOx4 , @m_ludwig , @HaltsMaulwurf , @VKr , @RicM0 , @charlee , @fury , @WebDesignesCrow 
If you are still interested please vote @ Graph builder bar chart data label control 
The old wish is on the fast lane - with status: "acknowledged" .
It just needs some more Kudos to get accepted/implemented : )

hogi
Level XII
Status changed to: Duplicate
 
hogi
Level XII

@StratifiedTree2 , @LongitudinalOx4 , @m_ludwig , @HaltsMaulwurf , @VKr , @fury 
this wish is now marked as a duplicate.

If you want to get this functionality implemented, please vote @ Graph builder bar chart data label control