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Kevin
Level I

interaction only DOE

Hello,

 

I have 4 factors of process parameters (airflow, rotation speed, agitation speed and temperature) and 4 factors of raw material characterization (particle size, concentration, pH and vendor). I just want to know whether there is any interaction between any of process parameters and raw material characterization. Does anyone know how should I design DOE to do that?

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louv
Staff (Retired)

Re: interaction only DOE

Hello,

With the information that you shared there are many follow-on questions.

With respect to the raw material factors, you mention the quality characteristics I presume. A vendor supplies a raw material and there is a CofA with respect to the specifications of particle size, conceentration and pH. Is that correct? I ask because it sounds like if that is the case one would only use vendor as the factor. Do you have control over these quality characteristics or is "vendor" a proxy for those characteristics?

gzmorgan0
Super User (Alumni)

Re: interaction only DOE

Ditto, if the reported values come from the vendor reports. However, often vendor/batch is a possible surrogate, especially, if the materials will be selected so that they have a wide range of quality characteristics.

 

Kevin
Level I

Re: interaction only DOE

In this case, we have control of the quality of the raw material. The question is we need to understand how those quality attributes interact with process parameter so that we know for a particute raw material lot, what's the setting of process parameters should be.

gzmorgan0
Super User (Alumni)

Re: interaction only DOE

Kevin,

The reason numerous people have not responded is because this type of question has no simple answer.  DOE is always dependent upon, current knowledge or available/past information and resources, how many trials you can afford to run, stability of processing conditions such as tools/wear and numerous factors.

 

From your description, it seems you have 6 continuous factors, 1 categorical factor (vendor), and one that could be continuous or categorical (particle size).   The number of vendors has a big effect on the number of trials.  

 

Most statisticians will recommend a sequential approach to building a model; in other words, smaller designs  or definitive screening designs  to learn the most important factors.  Then analyze the results and revise the experiments and models.  Also, some find reasonable operating conditions  for a few vendors, then revise the model via offline quality improvement, while running the process; in other words, continuous process improvement.

 

It is likely there are conditions that make little to no sense to run: maybe high concentration and large particles or low concentration and very small particles would make no sense.  This is the engineering and research aspect of design, that can help keep keep cost down.  I do not know your industry, but IEEE publications, or if you are in semiconductors, SRC publications can provide some pointers.

 

If you are working for a company, look for your company's statistician, or find a university professor or grad student (with experience with experimental designs for manufacturing) to work with you.  

 

Of course, you could use JMP to create a Custom Design for interactions, specifying your factors and specifying your model for 2 factor interactions.   The resulting design of 70 or more trials would have good efficiency. But the devil is in the details of how to run that experiment and get good results and assure no cross contamination from one trial to the next.

 

 Good Luck!

 

Kevin
Level I

Re: interaction only DOE

Thank you, seems like there is no easy answer to that question.

louv
Staff (Retired)

Re: interaction only DOE

Hello Kevin,

It's not that the answer isn't easy there are just many considerations that would benefit from a group brainstorming session.

Whatever you do don't abandon the DOE approach because the journey is well worth the effort.

In the simplest scenario you could examine your 7 continuous factors (airflow, rotation, agitation, temp, particle size, conc. & pH) along with 1 categorical factor (vendor) in 16 runs using the custom design platform and treating all two-way interactions as "if possible" otherwise I think you would be in for 44 runs assuming you only have 2 vendors.