cancel
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
  • JMP will suspend normal business operations for our Winter Holiday beginning on Wednesday, Dec. 24, 2025, at 5:00 p.m. ET (2:00 p.m. ET for JMP Accounts Receivable).
    Regular business hours will resume at 9:00 a.m. EST on Friday, Jan. 2, 2026.
  • We’re retiring the File Exchange at the end of this year. The JMP Marketplace is now your destination for add-ins and extensions.

Discussions

Solve problems, and share tips and tricks with other JMP users.
%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-450822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3EAn%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-450822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3EHola%20a%20todos%2C%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EMe%20gustar%C3%ADa%20realizar%20un%20an%C3%A1lisis%20de%20supervivencia%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%20con%20JMP%20(versi%C3%B3n%2015.2.1).%20Quiero%20que%20los%20intervalos%20de%20confianza%20se%20calculen%20con%20el%20enfoque%20logar%C3%ADtmico%20de%20Greenwood.%20Pero%20no%20estoy%20seguro%20de%20qu%C3%A9%20f%C3%B3rmula%20usa%20JMP%20y%20no%20puedo%20encontrar%20nada%20al%20respecto.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%C2%BFAlguien%20sabe%20si%20los%20valores%20superior%20e%20inferior%20del%2095%25%20en%20el%20an%C3%A1lisis%20de%20supervivencia%20de%20JMP%20se%20calculan%20con%20el%20enfoque%20logar%C3%ADtmico%20de%20Greenwood%3F%20Si%20se%20calcula%20de%20otra%20manera%2C%20%C2%BFes%20posible%20establecer%20el%20m%C3%A9todo%20de%20c%C3%A1lculo%20en%20alg%C3%BAn%20lugar%20de%20JMP%3F%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20image-alt%3D%22ConstructFish94_0-1641996498791.png%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20400px%3B%22%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%22%20image-alt%3D%22ConstructFish94_0-1641996498791.png%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20400px%3B%22%3E%3Cspan%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%22%20image-alt%3D%22ConstructFish94_0-1641996498791.png%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20400px%3B%22%3E%3Cimg%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.jmp.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F38937i84311D1D19DBB7E7%2Fimage-size%2Fmedium%3Fv%3Dv2%26amp%3Bpx%3D400%22%20role%3D%22button%22%20title%3D%22ConstructFish94_0-1641996498791.png%22%20alt%3D%22ConstructFish94_0-1641996498791.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%26nbsp%3B%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EMuchas%20gracias%20por%20su%20ayuda.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-LABS%20id%3D%22lingo-labs-450822%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CLINGO-LABEL%3EAnal%C3%ADtica%3C%2FLINGO-LABEL%3E%3C%2FLINGO-LABS%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-451334%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3ERe%3A%20An%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-451334%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3EMuchas%20gracias%20por%20tu%20perfecta%20explicaci%C3%B3n.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-451121%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3ERe%3A%20An%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-451121%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3ELa%20siguiente%20f%C3%B3rmula%20para%20Sigma(S(t))%20en%20esa%20p%C3%A1gina%20es%20la%20misma%20para%20LOGIT%20y%20LOGLOG.%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%20lia-image-align-inline%22%20image-alt%3D%22peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20400px%3B%22%3E%3CSPAN%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%22%20image-alt%3D%22peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20207px%3B%22%3E%3Cspan%20class%3D%22lia-inline-image-display-wrapper%22%20image-alt%3D%22peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png%22%20style%3D%22width%3A%20207px%3B%22%3E%3Cimg%20src%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.jmp.com%2Ft5%2Fimage%2Fserverpage%2Fimage-id%2F38971iECAC3A976A90B9AD%2Fimage-size%2Fmedium%3Fv%3Dv2%26amp%3Bpx%3D400%22%20role%3D%22button%22%20title%3D%22peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png%22%20alt%3D%22peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png%22%20%2F%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FSPAN%3E%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3EPero%20diferentes%20transformaciones%20luego%20calculan%20los%20errores%20est%C3%A1ndar%20de%20las%20cantidades%20transformadas%20de%20manera%20diferente%2C%20usando%20la%20misma%20cantidad%20anterior.%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3EEsta%20p%C3%A1gina%20enumera%20c%C3%B3mo%20se%20usa%20la%20cantidad%20en%20diferentes%20transformaciones%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fviewer.htm%23statug_lifetest_a0000000262.htm%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%22%3E%20https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fviewer.htm%23statug_lifetest_a0000000262.htm%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3EJMP%20sigue%20la%20ruta%20LOGIT.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-451117%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3ERe%3A%20An%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-451117%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3EMuchas%20gracias.%20Perd%C3%B3n%20por%20mi%20pregunta%20enga%C3%B1osa.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ELa%20mitad%20de%20mi%20pregunta%20ya%20est%C3%A1%20respondida.%20Desafortunadamente%20hubiera%20necesitado%20el%20CONFTYPE%20%22LOGLOG%22.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3EAdem%C3%A1s%2C%20estoy%20buscando%20la%20f%C3%B3rmula%20con%20la%20que%20se%20calcula%20el%20error%20est%C3%A1ndar%20estimado%20en%20JMP15.2.1.%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3ELa%20f%C3%B3rmula%20de%20Greenwood%20se%20utiliza%20en%20SAS%209.2%20y%20se%20indica%20en%20esta%20p%C3%A1gina%3A%3C%2FP%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fviewer.htm%23statug_lifetest_a0000000260.htm%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%22%3EPROC%20LIFETEST%3A%20M%C3%A9todo%20de%20l%C3%ADmite%20de%20producto%20%3A%3A%20Gu%C3%ADa%20del%20usuario%20de%20SAS%2FSTAT(R)%209.2%2C%20segunda%20edici%C3%B3n%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-451054%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3ERe%3A%20An%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-451054%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3ECreo%20que%20ahora%20entiendo%20la%20pregunta.%20Est%C3%A1s%20hablando%20de%20la%20opci%C3%B3n%20CONFTYPE%20en%20esta%20p%C3%A1gina%3A%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fviewer.htm%23statug_lifetest_sect004.htm%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%22%3E%20https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fviewer.htm%23statug_lifetest_sect004.htm%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3ESi%20es%20as%C3%AD%2C%20JMP%20implementa%20LOGIT%20y%20ese%20es%20el%20%C3%BAnico%20m%C3%A9todo%20que%20proporciona%20JMP.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-451047%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3ERe%3A%20An%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-451047%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3EGracias%20por%20su%20r%C3%A1pida%20respuesta.%3CBR%20%2F%3E%20S%C3%A9%20que%20la%20f%C3%B3rmula%20de%20Greenwood%20con%20una%20transformaci%C3%B3n%20log-log%20es%20la%20predeterminada%20en%20SAS%20v9.2%20en%20adelante.%20Aunque%20no%20estoy%20seguro%20de%20si%20es%20el%20valor%20predeterminado%20en%20JMP%20versi%C3%B3n%2015.2.1.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E%3CLINGO-SUB%20id%3D%22lingo-sub-450961%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3ERe%3A%20An%C3%A1lisis%20de%20Kaplan-Meier%3C%2FLINGO-SUB%3E%3CLINGO-BODY%20id%3D%22lingo-body-450961%22%20slang%3D%22en-US%22%20mode%3D%22NONE%22%3E%3CP%3E%3CA%20href%3D%22https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fstatug_lifetest_a0000000261.htm%22%20target%3D%22_blank%22%20rel%3D%22noopener%20noreferrer%22%3Ehttps%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sas.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fcdl%2Fen%2Fstatug%2F63033%2FHTML%2Fdefault%2Fstatug_lifetest_a0000000261.htm%3C%2FA%3E%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3ETal%20vez%20una%20documentaci%C3%B3n%20de%20SAS%20pueda%20aclararlo.%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3ENo%20estoy%20seguro%20de%20si%20%22Greenwood%20log-log%22%20en%20particular%20es%20lo%20mismo%20o%20no.%3C%2FP%3E%0A%3CP%3EJMP%20solo%20proporciona%20un%20m%C3%A9todo.%3C%2FP%3E%3C%2FLINGO-BODY%3E
Choose Language Hide Translation Bar

Kaplan-Meier Analysis

Hi everyone,

 

I would like to conduct a Kaplan-Meier Survivorship analysis with JMP (version 15.2.1). I want the confidence intervals to be calculated with the Greenwood log-log approach. But I am not sure which formula JMP uses and I cannot find anything about that.

Does anyone know if the upper and lower 95% values in the JMP survival analysis is calculated with the Greenwood log-log approach? If it is calculated in a different way, is it possible to set the calculation method somewhere in JMP?

 

ConstructFish94_0-1641996498791.png

 

Thank you very much for your help.

1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions
peng_liu
Level VII

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

The following formula for Sigma(S(t)) on that page is same for LOGIT and LOGLOG. 

peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png

But different transformations then calculate standard errors of the transformed quantities differently, using the same quantity above.

This page lists how the quantity is used in different transformations https://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/63033/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_lifetest_a0...

JMP follows the LOGIT path.

View solution in original post

6 REPLIES 6
peng_liu
Level VII

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

https://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/63033/HTML/default/statug_lifetest_a0000000261.h...

Maybe a SAS documentation can clarify it.

I am not sure whether "Greenwood log-log" in particular is the same or not.

JMP only provides one method.

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

Thank you for your quick reply.
I know that the Greenwood formula with a log-log transform is the default in SAS v9.2 onwards. Though I am not sure if it is the default in JMP version 15.2.1.

peng_liu
Level VII

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

I think I understand the question now. Are you talking about the option CONFTYPE on this page: https://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/63033/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_lifetest_se...

If so, JMP implements LOGIT and that is the only method that JMP provides.

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

Thank you very much. Sorry for my misleading question.

Half of my question is already answered. Unfortunately I would have needed the CONFTYPE "LOGLOG".

Moreover, I am looking for the formula with which the estimated standard error is calculated in JMP15.2.1.

The Greenwood's formula is used in SAS 9.2 and is stated on this page:

PROC LIFETEST: Product-Limit Method :: SAS/STAT(R) 9.2 User's Guide, Second Edition

peng_liu
Level VII

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

The following formula for Sigma(S(t)) on that page is same for LOGIT and LOGLOG. 

peng_liu_0-1642091870551.png

But different transformations then calculate standard errors of the transformed quantities differently, using the same quantity above.

This page lists how the quantity is used in different transformations https://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/63033/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_lifetest_a0...

JMP follows the LOGIT path.

Re: Kaplan-Meier Analysis

Thanks a lot for your perfect explanation.

Recommended Articles