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Jul 30, 2016 9:08 PM
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I have this script which does a simple calculation and displays result in a window:

subtotal = 100.05;

discountPercent = 0.1;

discountAmount = subtotal * discountPercent;

totalBeforeTax = subtotal - discountAmount;

formattedMessage = Concat(

"Subtotal:",Repeat(" ",5), Format(subtotal, "Currency"), "\!n",

"Discount Percent:", Repeat(" ",5), Format(discountPercent, "Percent"), "\!n",

"Discount Amount:", Repeat(" ",5), Format(discountAmount, "Currency"), "\!n",

"Total before tax:", Repeat(" ",5), Format(totalBeforeTax, "Currency"), "\!n"

);

formattedMessageDisplay = New Window( "Result",

Lineup Box( N Col( 1 ), Spacing( 0, 0 ), Border Box( Left( 20 ), Right( 20 ), top( 20 ), bottom( 20 ),

Text Box( formattedMessage, <<SetFontSize( 14 ) ) )

),

Show(subtotal, discountAmount, totalBeforeTax)

);

It produces the following, in the log and the output window :

So using Format(totalBeforeTax, "Currency"), results in totalBeforeTax being "rounded up". I can think of a variety of ways of handling this, but wondered what would be most recommended.

PDB

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You might want to round/floor/ceiling the discountAmount calculation. Round has a second argument that you might want to set to 2 for digits after the decimal. Floor and ceiling will need something like floor(x*100)/100 to get a similar result.

subtotal = 100.05;

discountPercent = 0.1;

discountAmount = **round**(subtotal * discountPercent,**2)**;

totalBeforeTax = subtotal - discountAmount;

show(discountAmount, totalBeforeTax);

**discountAmount = 10.01;**

**totalBeforeTax = 90.04;**

The format function in your original code is on the knife-edge of rounding up or down with the 0.005 rounded to two places. The discrepancy in the presentation is triggered by the value having a minus in one case and a plus in the other...both values are rounded up, but one of them has negative discountAmount in the calculation.

Floating point numbers used in JMP represent numbers like 0.01 as a truncated repeating binary fraction. Just like 1/3 isn't exactly 0.333333333333, the internal representation isn't exact (except for binary fractions like 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, ...). if you add up 100 pennies, represented as 0.01, you'll get a number that is very close to 1.00, but different in the 16'th decimal place. This very tiny error has always made accounting packages choose another representation: java - Why not use Double or Float to represent currency? - Stack Overflow

total = 0;

For( i = 1, i <= 100, i++, total += .01 );

show( format(total,"fixed",20,16) );

**Format(total, "fixed", 20, 16) = "1.0000000000000007";**

Craige

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I don't do a lot of financial reporting, however, when I need to worry about rounding errors, I just use the functions Round(),Ceiling() and Floor().

Jim

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for you reply. So, Floor and Ceiling round to the nearest integer. Format (x, "Currency") basically appears to use Round(x,2). One would think the "Currency" format would employ a truncation method rather than rounding.

PDB

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You might want to round/floor/ceiling the discountAmount calculation. Round has a second argument that you might want to set to 2 for digits after the decimal. Floor and ceiling will need something like floor(x*100)/100 to get a similar result.

subtotal = 100.05;

discountPercent = 0.1;

discountAmount = **round**(subtotal * discountPercent,**2)**;

totalBeforeTax = subtotal - discountAmount;

show(discountAmount, totalBeforeTax);

**discountAmount = 10.01;**

**totalBeforeTax = 90.04;**

The format function in your original code is on the knife-edge of rounding up or down with the 0.005 rounded to two places. The discrepancy in the presentation is triggered by the value having a minus in one case and a plus in the other...both values are rounded up, but one of them has negative discountAmount in the calculation.

Floating point numbers used in JMP represent numbers like 0.01 as a truncated repeating binary fraction. Just like 1/3 isn't exactly 0.333333333333, the internal representation isn't exact (except for binary fractions like 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, ...). if you add up 100 pennies, represented as 0.01, you'll get a number that is very close to 1.00, but different in the 16'th decimal place. This very tiny error has always made accounting packages choose another representation: java - Why not use Double or Float to represent currency? - Stack Overflow

total = 0;

For( i = 1, i <= 100, i++, total += .01 );

show( format(total,"fixed",20,16) );

**Format(total, "fixed", 20, 16) = "1.0000000000000007";**

Craige

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Aug 1, 2016 11:54 AM
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| Posted in reply to message from Craige_Hales 08/01/2016 11:07 AM

Thanks Craige, indeed I've been considering building an interface to allow JMP to access java's BigDecimal class. Are there any plans to include this as a type in the next version of JMP?

PDB

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Another thing I thought of was to convert to string and use Regex.

PDB

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No Big Number plans at this time. There were a lot of interesting points being made in the StackOverflow link. Different solutions might be appropriate depending on what you'll do with the numbers.

Craige

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