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ivanpicchi
Level III

Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

Good afternoon!

I made a DSD with 16 factors and 3 responses (responses that must meet different conditions and simultaneously maximum/minimum) in order to screen the main factors and check curvature and quadratic terms in the models.

I would like to know how to generate an RSM and obtain the optimized response for welding, simultaneously meeting the requirements of the responses (the desariblity curves of each response being superimposed and met simultaneously, in this case) without having to generate another DOE (e.g. a Box- Behken). I saw that it is possible to use the "augment design" function in JMP to provide extra runs and it is possible to generate such response surfaces with the DSD itself.

(JMP file is attached)

 

thank you for your attention!

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

Hi @ivanpicchi,

 

If you have several responses and use "Fit Definitive Screening Design", click on CTRL + "Run Model" to launch the Fit Model platform with all responses. You can fine-tune the models for each response independently if needed.
Then, click on the red triangle next to "Fit Group" and "Profiler" : you'll have a Profiler with all responses and specific model for each response considered.

Victor_G_0-1696358609485.png

 

From there, you can specify the desirability functions (red triangle from Prediction Profiler, "Optimization and Desirability", and "Desirability Functions"), importance of each response, and optimize the levels of the factors to reach the best compromise depending on your settings (red triangle from Prediction Profiler, "Optimization and Desirability", "Maximize Desirability") :
 

Victor_G_1-1696358740675.png

Result : 

Victor_G_2-1696358760576.png

 

You can also create your own specific models and try different estimation methods with the "Fit Model" platform, specify all your responses and check the "Fit Separately" option :

Victor_G_3-1696358839920.png

From there you will also have access to the "Fit Group" options and the Profiler for all responses to optimize them simultaneously.

 

I hope this will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Data & Analytics

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Victor_G
Super User

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

Hi @ivanpicchi,

You can colorize in red scale the factors on the Profiler based on their importances on the response by clicking on the red triangle of Profiler, then "Assess Variable Importance" and then you can choose to calculate importance depending on the assumption of the factors distributions : https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/17.2/index.shtml#page/jmp/assess-variable-importance.shtml

Then, on the new panel of the Variable Importance Report, you have the option in the red triangle to "Colorize Profiler", which will apply on the factors in the Profiler the red scale you have seen in my screenshots.

Hope this will help you,
Victor GUILLER
Data & Analytics

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ivanpicchi
Level III

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

  • Would I have to reduce the model to 3 main factors to fit the model and response surfaces?
  • How do I change the logworth line to the 0.05 significance level?
ivanpicchi
Level III

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

Here (https://prismtc.co.uk/resources/blogs-and-articles/the-evolution-of-definitive-screening-designs-fro...) he screens 6 factors for 3 and apparently generates the model already consider the 3 answers simultaneously.

 

ivanpicchi_0-1696357596120.png

In my file (attached to the post), it generated a separate desirability curve for each response and did the screening independently for each response, even leaving it to generate a model per response, preventing me from achieving the optimized coding while simultaneously obeying the restrictions imposed on each of the 3 responses:

 

ivanpicchi_1-1696357778906.png

 

 

Does anyone have any tips or solutions to resolve this issue? I need to generate a model that meets the restrictions of the 3 answers, simultaneously.

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

Hi @ivanpicchi,

 

If you have several responses and use "Fit Definitive Screening Design", click on CTRL + "Run Model" to launch the Fit Model platform with all responses. You can fine-tune the models for each response independently if needed.
Then, click on the red triangle next to "Fit Group" and "Profiler" : you'll have a Profiler with all responses and specific model for each response considered.

Victor_G_0-1696358609485.png

 

From there, you can specify the desirability functions (red triangle from Prediction Profiler, "Optimization and Desirability", and "Desirability Functions"), importance of each response, and optimize the levels of the factors to reach the best compromise depending on your settings (red triangle from Prediction Profiler, "Optimization and Desirability", "Maximize Desirability") :
 

Victor_G_1-1696358740675.png

Result : 

Victor_G_2-1696358760576.png

 

You can also create your own specific models and try different estimation methods with the "Fit Model" platform, specify all your responses and check the "Fit Separately" option :

Victor_G_3-1696358839920.png

From there you will also have access to the "Fit Group" options and the Profiler for all responses to optimize them simultaneously.

 

I hope this will help you,

Victor GUILLER
Data & Analytics
ivanpicchi
Level III

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

How did you leave the graphs that have the greatest impact on desirability on the red scale?

Victor_G
Super User

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

Hi @ivanpicchi,

You can colorize in red scale the factors on the Profiler based on their importances on the response by clicking on the red triangle of Profiler, then "Assess Variable Importance" and then you can choose to calculate importance depending on the assumption of the factors distributions : https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/17.2/index.shtml#page/jmp/assess-variable-importance.shtml

Then, on the new panel of the Variable Importance Report, you have the option in the red triangle to "Colorize Profiler", which will apply on the factors in the Profiler the red scale you have seen in my screenshots.

Hope this will help you,
Victor GUILLER
Data & Analytics
gregbowers
Level I

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

thanks for sharing

ivanpicchi
Level III

Re: Generate RSM after DSD in a welding experiment

amazing! ty!