Basic JMP vs SAS overview?

[#1]

Hi,

I was wondering if there are folks who use (or have used) both JMP and SAS, and could give some sort of overview of the difference, and why someone might choose one over the other?  Maybe to keep it simpler, JMP vs PC SAS.

I've been programming in SAS for years, never took a look at JMP.

Recently, I've been working on statistical process control stuff in SAS.  And there's plenty of functionality there (we have the SAS/QC packagakge).  But it seems like every time I see discussion of SPC stuff here on communities.sas.com, it's something from this JMP forum.

And today, saw this great post from John Sall on the JMP blog with a Goal Plot nicely displaying summary information on 100+ processes.

http://blogs.sas.com/content/jmp/2013/09/24/each-statistic-should-have-a-graph-to-go-with-it-not/

And I thought, "Oh, that's beautiful, I should add that to my dashboard..."

And I can do it in SAS, of course, but it made me curious again as to from whence JMP came, where it is going, and JMP vs SAS.

I knew John Sall was co-founder of SAS, but wikipedia told me he developed JMP in the 1980s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sall

Which makes we wonder, was JMP SAS Institute's tool for PC analytics before there was PC SAS? Now that PC SAS is around (and EG SAS and web SAS coming....) what does the future hold for JMP and desktop SAS?  Are they seen as complimentary?   Will JMP always be a desktop analytics solution, competing with STATA, Minitab, SPSS, etc?

Would someone looking for an "SPC solution" buy JMP and install it on a few PC's before developing a SAS solution?

Realize this is vague. Happy for any responses, or links to blogs that go beyond basic marketing.

[#2]

Also being an old SAS user, and also a long time JMP user, I suggest that you start your entry into JMP by:

1. Scanning the documentation "Discovering JMP" and "Using JMP", that is available under

     Help>Books

2. Go through the New User Welcome Kit

     New User Welcome Kit

3. Go through the tutorials of interest available under

     Help>Tutorials

4. Then start down the JSL path by going through the Scripting Guide

[#3]

@thoffnagle The three places I recommend you start are:

For a quick fly over of the JMP user interface and experience I suggest participating in one of the "Getting Started with JMP" live webinars:

https://www.jmp.com/en_us/events/getting-started-with-jmp/overview.html

Once you have a JMP or JMP Pro license, I recommend completing the JMP New User Welcome Kit. The JMP New User Welcome Kit is an online e-learning type experience for new to JMP users:

https://www.jmp.com/en_us/events/getting-started-with-jmp/new-user-welcome-kit.html

And finally since it sounds like you are coming from a SAS environment...you may want to take a look at some of the free resources available for using JMP in a SAS environment...I'm presuming you won't stop using SAS or you'll have data in a SAS framework that you want to analyze within the JMP ecosystem:

https://www.jmp.com/en_us/learning-library/using-sas-from-jmp.html

And last but not least...you've already found the JMP User Community...peruse especially the Discussions and File Exchange for all sorts of useful information.