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dr_d
Level I

Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Greetings,

Hope someone can help me resolve this calculation.  I have hundreds of curves each being different.  I calculated a critical point on each of the curves, from this point, I need to extrapolate perhaps using a tangent line to the horizontal axis and have that value recorded.

Regards,

 

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txnelson
Super User

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Using the JSL function called Linear Regression(), it should be easy to move the X and Y data that is right of the critical point, and to retrieve the intercept.  Look into the Scripting Index for Linear Regression.

txnelson_0-1642183829191.png

 

Jim

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burakbagdatli
Level III

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Take a look at the table script I put into a data table I made up for this problem.

You probably don't need the interactivity but it should give you an idea for solving the intercept based on a critical point selection.

 

The main solution in in the graph script:

selected_rows = Current Data Table() << Get Selected Rows();
If( N Items( selected_rows ) > 0,
	Current Data Table() << Clear Row States();
	critical_row = selected_rows[1, 0][1];
	Current Data Table() << Select Rows( critical_row );
	Current Data Table() << Colors( "Red" );
	Current Data Table() << Clear Select();
);
Try(
	x_prev = :X[critical_row - 1];
	x_crit = :X[critical_row];
	y_prev = :Y[critical_row - 1];
	y_crit = :Y[critical_row];
	slope = (y_crit - y_prev) / (x_crit - x_prev);
	x_intercept = x_crit - y_crit / slope;
	Y Function( slope * (a - x_intercept), a );
	Marker( Marker State( 2 ), {x_intercept, 0} );
	Text( {x_intercept, 0}, Eval Insert( "  intercept = ^x_intercept^" ) );
);
What we see of the real world is not the unvarnished real world but a model of the real world, constructed so it is useful for dealing with the real world. —Richard Dawkins

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Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

What kind of curves? What is their equation? What are the values for the parameters in the model equation? Can you use the derivative of the curve to calculate the tangent to the critical point? And is 'perhaps' a statement of your confidence in this approach?

dr_d
Level I

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

The curve will be similar to the picture below, the point where the blue line originates is the critical point for the tangent line to be extrapolated to horizontal axis.  

Let me know if this makes sense

Thanks

 

dr_d_0-1642104784035.png

 

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

It looks like you are hunting for the linear portion of the curve and then estimating the x-intercept.

dr_d
Level I

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Hi

Yes, I have hundreds of these curves and all being different would be nice to automate those x-intercepts.  I can probably calculate the linear slope using a point above and a point below in the array, then plot that line an record the value for the x-intercept...I'm just having a hard time conceptualizing that in JMP, I was able to do it VB but if JMP can do it will be much easier for the next set of evaluations.

Thanks

txnelson
Super User

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Using the JSL function called Linear Regression(), it should be easy to move the X and Y data that is right of the critical point, and to retrieve the intercept.  Look into the Scripting Index for Linear Regression.

txnelson_0-1642183829191.png

 

Jim
dr_d
Level I

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

thanks, I look into this further

burakbagdatli
Level III

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Take a look at the table script I put into a data table I made up for this problem.

You probably don't need the interactivity but it should give you an idea for solving the intercept based on a critical point selection.

 

The main solution in in the graph script:

selected_rows = Current Data Table() << Get Selected Rows();
If( N Items( selected_rows ) > 0,
	Current Data Table() << Clear Row States();
	critical_row = selected_rows[1, 0][1];
	Current Data Table() << Select Rows( critical_row );
	Current Data Table() << Colors( "Red" );
	Current Data Table() << Clear Select();
);
Try(
	x_prev = :X[critical_row - 1];
	x_crit = :X[critical_row];
	y_prev = :Y[critical_row - 1];
	y_crit = :Y[critical_row];
	slope = (y_crit - y_prev) / (x_crit - x_prev);
	x_intercept = x_crit - y_crit / slope;
	Y Function( slope * (a - x_intercept), a );
	Marker( Marker State( 2 ), {x_intercept, 0} );
	Text( {x_intercept, 0}, Eval Insert( "  intercept = ^x_intercept^" ) );
);
What we see of the real world is not the unvarnished real world but a model of the real world, constructed so it is useful for dealing with the real world. —Richard Dawkins
dr_d
Level I

Re: Tangent Line extrapolation from a known point on cuve

Hi

This is really elegant, it worked great for a single curve, I just need to figure out how to implement to multiple curves.

Regards,