turn on suggestions

Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type.

Showing results for

- JMP User Community
- :
- Discussions
- :
- Screening Replicated factorial DOE - Half normal p...

Topic Options

- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Mark Topic as New
- Mark Topic as Read
- Float this Topic for Current User
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Printer Friendly Page

- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Get Direct Link
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content

Jun 3, 2009 4:04 PM
(763 views)

I run the screening script and a half normal plot is created - so far so good. But there are 7 points in the half normal plot, but just 3 effects (2 x main effects and 1 x 2 factor interaction). One of the null terms 'Null7' is even highlighted as significant.

Finally, a Lenth PSE is quoted.

The Stat and Graph guide for the Screening analysis says "The process continues until n effects are obtained, where n is the number of rows in the data table, thus fully saturating the model. If complete saturation is not possible with the factors, JMP generates random orthogonalized effects to absorb the rest of the variation. They are labeled Null n where n is a number. This situation occurs, for example, if there are exact replicate rows in the design."

My questions:

1. Why do it this way? I have no idea if this is the most statistically correct approach to analyse a replicated factorial design, but it is confusing to say the least to see extra null terms in the half normal plot, where I expect just to see main effects and interactions. I have not seen this in text books nor in Minitab.

2. Lenth's procedure, I thought, was a method to analysed UNREPLICATED data, where no degrees of freedom for the error term existed. In Minitab, for example, Lenth's method is used (and a PSE quoted) when the design is unreplicated only.

Any comments appreciated (I would love to learn that I'm doing replicated DOEs incorrectly on JMP).

1 REPLY

- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Get Direct Link
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content

Jun 8, 2009 12:06 PM
(607 views)