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Feb 15, 2017 3:38 PM
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I'm trying to extract time values where continuous rectangular pulses meets V0 potentail.

Though I only showed 2 cycles for 3 wafeforms, there exist more cycles and the number of waveforms is more than 3.

The rising and falling happens in different timing for each waveform, and I wish to find a solution to extract t1_rise, t1_fall, t2_rise, t2_fall... for given data set.

If any of you can enlighten me, it will be tremendously grateful.

Thanks,

Pi

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Feb 15, 2017 8:47 PM
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Solution

I have put together a simple little script, that with the exception of calculating the 90% and 10% of max (a little confused on what you want there), I think this is kind of what you want.

```
Names Default To Here( 1 );
dt = Current Data Table();
dt << New Column( "time of crossing" );
dt << New Column( "direction", character );
dt << New Column( "Which threshold", character );
max90 = 5.6;
max10 = .6;
timerise = Function( {MaxPercent},
:time of crossing[i] = ((MaxPercent - :voltage[i - 1]) / (:voltage[i] - :voltage[i - 1])) * (:time[i] - :time[i - 1]) + :time[i - 1]
);
timefall = Function( {MaxPercent},
:time of crossing[i] = ((:voltage[i - 1] - MaxPercent) / (:voltage[i - 1] - :voltage[i])) * (:time[i - 1] - :time[i]) + :time[i]
);
For( i = 2, i <= N Rows( dt ), i++,
If( :waveform[i - 1] != :waveform[i],
Show( i ),
If( :voltage[i] >= max10 & :voltage[i - 1] < max10,
x = timerise( max10 );
:direction[i] = "Rise";
:Which Threshold[i] = "10%";
);
If( :voltage[i] >= max90 & :voltage[i - 1] < max90,
x = timerise( max90 );
:direction[i] = "Rise";
:Which Threshold[i] = "90%";
);
If( :voltage[i] <= max10 & :voltage[i - 1] > max10,
x = timefall( max10 );
:direction[i] = "Fall";
:Which Threshold[i] = "10%";
);
If( :voltage[i] <= max90 & :voltage[i - 1] > max90,
x = timefall( max90 );
:direction[i] = "Fall";
:Which Threshold[i] = "90%";
);
)
);
```

Jim

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Feb 15, 2017 6:29 PM
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Making the assumption that each row has a timestamp, and a voltage value, then it is relitively simple to pass through the data and detect when the data crosses over a specified voltage. Doing this for multiple waveforms would just be a bit more complex. What would be helpful is to see what the structure of your data table is. If you could provide that, I am sure that someone in the community would be able to provide you with a solution

Jim

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Feb 15, 2017 7:03 PM
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I really appreciate your comment

I attached a sample data table below, and really hope you can give me a solution.

As you said, I have equally spaced timestamps for the waveforms which are stacked together in the same column, and the waveform number is categorized in a column which I need to keep. (i.e. I cannot split the column.)

To find the rising and falling time of each rectangular pulse, I wish to find the crossing time of the voltage at 10% and 90% of maximum voltage (excluding overshoots and undershoots which is about 6V) on each rectangular pulse.

If two threshold crossing per one edge is too complicated, I wish to find the way to detect the time for just one threshold crossing.

Hope I can find the solution from the community.

Thanks,

Pil

Thanks,

Pil

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Feb 15, 2017 8:47 PM
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I have put together a simple little script, that with the exception of calculating the 90% and 10% of max (a little confused on what you want there), I think this is kind of what you want.

```
Names Default To Here( 1 );
dt = Current Data Table();
dt << New Column( "time of crossing" );
dt << New Column( "direction", character );
dt << New Column( "Which threshold", character );
max90 = 5.6;
max10 = .6;
timerise = Function( {MaxPercent},
:time of crossing[i] = ((MaxPercent - :voltage[i - 1]) / (:voltage[i] - :voltage[i - 1])) * (:time[i] - :time[i - 1]) + :time[i - 1]
);
timefall = Function( {MaxPercent},
:time of crossing[i] = ((:voltage[i - 1] - MaxPercent) / (:voltage[i - 1] - :voltage[i])) * (:time[i - 1] - :time[i]) + :time[i]
);
For( i = 2, i <= N Rows( dt ), i++,
If( :waveform[i - 1] != :waveform[i],
Show( i ),
If( :voltage[i] >= max10 & :voltage[i - 1] < max10,
x = timerise( max10 );
:direction[i] = "Rise";
:Which Threshold[i] = "10%";
);
If( :voltage[i] >= max90 & :voltage[i - 1] < max90,
x = timerise( max90 );
:direction[i] = "Rise";
:Which Threshold[i] = "90%";
);
If( :voltage[i] <= max10 & :voltage[i - 1] > max10,
x = timefall( max10 );
:direction[i] = "Fall";
:Which Threshold[i] = "10%";
);
If( :voltage[i] <= max90 & :voltage[i - 1] > max90,
x = timefall( max90 );
:direction[i] = "Fall";
:Which Threshold[i] = "90%";
);
)
);
```

Jim

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Feb 16, 2017 12:37 PM
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It worked out!!

I really appreciate your help, and I'm very happy to learn from you, Jim.

After find the way to implement your solution into my jsl code, indeed, I found another issue.

There are few false detections due to oscillation in the waveform.

I could get rid of some false detections happeing after the pulse by removing data points.

But, for the first pulse, several waveforms have multiple detection at rising edge due to a slow rising time. (It can be also found in the sample data table which I enclosed in this thread earlier.)

I know I'm bothering you too much, but I cannot think of how to remove those within the pulse.

I wish you can enlighten me a way to filter/ignore them out.

Thanks,

Pil

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Feb 16, 2017 1:18 PM
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I had a distantly related post on power-line wave forms sometime back.

It includes a graph of a 60Hz wave form with a 1/2 second drop out and some poorly thought out ideas about detecting frequency by counting zero crossings...in particular the frequency calculation created an extreme outlier when the power failed.

Craige

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Feb 16, 2017 3:30 PM
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I took the code I had included and just added a deadtime afer a crossing if observered, during which subsequest crossings are ignored.

```
Names Default To Here( 1 );
dt = Current Data Table();
dt << New Column( "time of crossing" );
dt << New Column( "direction", character );
dt << New Column( "Which threshold", character );
max90 = 5.6;
max10 = .6;
deadtime = .001;
lastcross = -9999999999;
timerise = Function( {MaxPercent},
:time of crossing[i] = ((MaxPercent - :voltage[i - 1]) / (:voltage[i] - :voltage[i - 1])) * (:time[i] - :time[i - 1]) + :time[i - 1]
);
timefall = Function( {MaxPercent},
:time of crossing[i] = ((:voltage[i - 1] - MaxPercent) / (:voltage[i - 1] - :voltage[i])) * (:time[i - 1] - :time[i]) + :time[i]
);
For( i = 2, i <= N Rows( dt ), i++,
If( :waveform[i - 1] != :waveform[i],
Show( i ),
If( :voltage[i] >= max10 & :voltage[i - 1] < max10 & :time[i]> lastcross+deadtime,
lastcross = :time[i];
x = timerise( max10 );
:direction[i] = "Rise";
:Which Threshold[i] = "10%";
);
If( :voltage[i] >= max90 & :voltage[i - 1] < max90 & :time[i]> lastcross+deadtime,
lastcross = :time[i];
x = timerise( max90 );
:direction[i] = "Rise";
:Which Threshold[i] = "90%";
);
If( :voltage[i] <= max10 & :voltage[i - 1] > max10 & :time[i]> lastcross+deadtime,
lastcross = :time[i];
x = timefall( max10 );
:direction[i] = "Fall";
:Which Threshold[i] = "10%";
);
If( :voltage[i] <= max90 & :voltage[i - 1] > max90 & :time[i]> lastcross+deadtime,
lastcross = :time[i];
x = timefall( max90 );
:direction[i] = "Fall";
:Which Threshold[i] = "90%";
);
)
);
```

Jim