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    <title>topic Scale Lambda for count setting for spline smoother in graph builder in JMP18 in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Scale-Lambda-for-count-setting-for-spline-smoother-in-graph/m-p/798574#M97455</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I noticed that some of my reports were getting totally messed up due to spline smoother looking weird. After a lot of tinkering I come to conclusion that my X-group seemed to be affecting my smoother. From that a lot more looking around what is going on until I finally came across new settings "Scale lambda for count" which can be found from Spline smoothers red triangle menu&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_0-1726228158110.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68228i5204E907EFD388C9/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jthi_0-1726228158110.png" alt="jthi_0-1726228158110.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Couldn't find it mentioned in Smoother documentation for Graph Builder&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/18.0/#page/jmp/smoother.shtml#" target="_blank"&gt;Smoother (jmp.com)&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(or any other mentions about this).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Example script to quickly test this behaviour&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-jsl"&gt;Names Default To Here(1); 

dt = open("$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp");

nw = New Window("Demo",
	Data Filter Context Box(
		Tab Box(
			Tab Page Box("Filter",
				dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Data Filter(
					Local,
					Add Filter(columns(:age), Display(:age, N Items(6)))
				)
				, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Base Font("Title")
			),
			Tab Page Box("No Scale",
				gb1 = dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Graph Builder(
					Show Control Panel(0),
					Variables(X(:weight), Y(:height), Group X(:age)),
					Elements(
						Points(X, Y, Legend(9)),
						Smoother(X, Y, Legend(12)) // default 0...
					)
				)
				, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Base Font("Title")				
			),
			Tab Page Box("Scale",
				gb2 = dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Graph Builder(
					Show Control Panel(0),
					Variables(X(:weight), Y(:height), Group X(:age)),
					Elements(
						Points(X, Y, Legend(9)),
						Smoother(X, Y, Legend(12), Scale lambda for count(1))
					)
				)
				, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Base Font("Title")				
			)
			, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Style("Horizontal Spread")
		)
	)
);

&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;JMP18 (default on left, Scale Lambda for Count set as 1 on right)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_4-1726229029895.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68233i85863583B81603CA/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="jthi_4-1726229029895.png" alt="jthi_4-1726229029895.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;JMP17&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_3-1726229024968.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68232i8E4566E3C5816E3D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="jthi_3-1726229024968.png" alt="jthi_3-1726229024968.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Which of the two options is closer to what JMP did earlier?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:12:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jthi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-09-13T12:12:57Z</dc:date>
    <item>
      <title>Scale Lambda for count setting for spline smoother in graph builder in JMP18</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Scale-Lambda-for-count-setting-for-spline-smoother-in-graph/m-p/798574#M97455</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I noticed that some of my reports were getting totally messed up due to spline smoother looking weird. After a lot of tinkering I come to conclusion that my X-group seemed to be affecting my smoother. From that a lot more looking around what is going on until I finally came across new settings "Scale lambda for count" which can be found from Spline smoothers red triangle menu&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_0-1726228158110.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68228i5204E907EFD388C9/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="jthi_0-1726228158110.png" alt="jthi_0-1726228158110.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Couldn't find it mentioned in Smoother documentation for Graph Builder&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/18.0/#page/jmp/smoother.shtml#" target="_blank"&gt;Smoother (jmp.com)&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(or any other mentions about this).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Example script to quickly test this behaviour&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-jsl"&gt;Names Default To Here(1); 

dt = open("$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp");

nw = New Window("Demo",
	Data Filter Context Box(
		Tab Box(
			Tab Page Box("Filter",
				dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Data Filter(
					Local,
					Add Filter(columns(:age), Display(:age, N Items(6)))
				)
				, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Base Font("Title")
			),
			Tab Page Box("No Scale",
				gb1 = dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Graph Builder(
					Show Control Panel(0),
					Variables(X(:weight), Y(:height), Group X(:age)),
					Elements(
						Points(X, Y, Legend(9)),
						Smoother(X, Y, Legend(12)) // default 0...
					)
				)
				, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Base Font("Title")				
			),
			Tab Page Box("Scale",
				gb2 = dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Graph Builder(
					Show Control Panel(0),
					Variables(X(:weight), Y(:height), Group X(:age)),
					Elements(
						Points(X, Y, Legend(9)),
						Smoother(X, Y, Legend(12), Scale lambda for count(1))
					)
				)
				, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Base Font("Title")				
			)
			, &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Set Style("Horizontal Spread")
		)
	)
);

&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;JMP18 (default on left, Scale Lambda for Count set as 1 on right)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_4-1726229029895.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68233i85863583B81603CA/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="jthi_4-1726229029895.png" alt="jthi_4-1726229029895.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;JMP17&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_3-1726229024968.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/68232i8E4566E3C5816E3D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="jthi_3-1726229024968.png" alt="jthi_3-1726229024968.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Which of the two options is closer to what JMP did earlier?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:12:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Scale-Lambda-for-count-setting-for-spline-smoother-in-graph/m-p/798574#M97455</guid>
      <dc:creator>jthi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-13T12:12:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Scale Lambda for count setting for spline smoother in graph builder in JMP18</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Scale-Lambda-for-count-setting-for-spline-smoother-in-graph/m-p/798594#M97457</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Interesting!&amp;nbsp; I didn't notice that added option ( I was so excited about the ability to use summary statistics with the smoother!).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It looks like using counts get you the closest but really seems like JMP 17 is between the two options for JMP 18.&amp;nbsp; Seems like there should be documentation if something changed in the base smoother fit......&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2024 13:18:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Scale-Lambda-for-count-setting-for-spline-smoother-in-graph/m-p/798594#M97457</guid>
      <dc:creator>shampton82</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-13T13:18:41Z</dc:date>
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