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    <title>topic How do I make my Mixed model work with AR(1) covariance structure? in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a large(2010X 4) data set and I need to calculate the effects of cycles and stresses on my wave speeds along with the interaction between them. My wavespeeds are collected for 4 stress levels so stresses here are repeated measurements. Here is a glimpse of what my stacked table looks like : N=subject on first row, CYC=cycle number on second row, STR: stress levels on third row and wave speeds collected in fourth row&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="AvgMethodMoose7_0-1722478733404.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/66697i778762BCE842595E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="AvgMethodMoose7_0-1722478733404.png" alt="AvgMethodMoose7_0-1722478733404.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I used the Mixed model on JMP pro where I have my cycle and stresses full factorial on fixed effects, N(subject number) on random effects, and wave speeds in Y.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question here is in repeated structure, I am unsure whether I should use a residual structure or AR(1) for repeated covariance structure. when I use residual structure for my co variance these are my results :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="AvgMethodMoose7_1-1722481031159.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/66698iBF73D9D3758CF2F3/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="AvgMethodMoose7_1-1722481031159.png" alt="AvgMethodMoose7_1-1722481031159.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="AvgMethodMoose7_2-1722481060372.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/66699iEC2B8BD48C3B1068/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="AvgMethodMoose7_2-1722481060372.png" alt="AvgMethodMoose7_2-1722481060372.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In&amp;nbsp; the fixed effects, the cycles, and stresses individually shows significance however cyc*stress interaction does not show significance which is not what is interpreted . and the cycles Nparm shows 43 which is taking account of only one fascic How do I approach this problem ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2024 18:56:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>AvgMethodMoose7</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-08-01T18:56:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How do I make my Mixed model work with AR(1) covariance structure?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/How-do-I-make-my-Mixed-model-work-with-AR-1-covariance-structure/m-p/778130#M95979</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a large(2010X 4) data set and I need to calculate the effects of cycles and stresses on my wave speeds along with the interaction between them. My wavespeeds are collected for 4 stress levels so stresses here are repeated measurements. Here is a glimpse of what my stacked table looks like : N=subject on first row, CYC=cycle number on second row, STR: stress levels on third row and wave speeds collected in fourth row&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="AvgMethodMoose7_0-1722478733404.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/66697i778762BCE842595E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="AvgMethodMoose7_0-1722478733404.png" alt="AvgMethodMoose7_0-1722478733404.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I used the Mixed model on JMP pro where I have my cycle and stresses full factorial on fixed effects, N(subject number) on random effects, and wave speeds in Y.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question here is in repeated structure, I am unsure whether I should use a residual structure or AR(1) for repeated covariance structure. when I use residual structure for my co variance these are my results :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="AvgMethodMoose7_1-1722481031159.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/66698iBF73D9D3758CF2F3/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="AvgMethodMoose7_1-1722481031159.png" alt="AvgMethodMoose7_1-1722481031159.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="AvgMethodMoose7_2-1722481060372.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/66699iEC2B8BD48C3B1068/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="AvgMethodMoose7_2-1722481060372.png" alt="AvgMethodMoose7_2-1722481060372.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In&amp;nbsp; the fixed effects, the cycles, and stresses individually shows significance however cyc*stress interaction does not show significance which is not what is interpreted . and the cycles Nparm shows 43 which is taking account of only one fascic How do I approach this problem ?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2024 18:56:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/How-do-I-make-my-Mixed-model-work-with-AR-1-covariance-structure/m-p/778130#M95979</guid>
      <dc:creator>AvgMethodMoose7</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-01T18:56:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I make my Mixed model work with AR(1) covariance structure?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/How-do-I-make-my-Mixed-model-work-with-AR-1-covariance-structure/m-p/779302#M96045</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Good question&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/58976"&gt;@AvgMethodMoose7&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;: There are many ways of thinking about this, but here is a good reference (earlier version of JMP, but the same thinking applies).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/Mastering-JMP/Fitting-Repeated-Measures-Data-using-JMP-Pro/ta-p/312501" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://community.jmp.com/t5/Mastering-JMP/Fitting-Repeated-Measures-Data-using-JMP-Pro/ta-p/312501&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Pretty good article here as well.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings/proceedings/sugi30/198-30.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;https://support.sas.com/resources/papers/proceedings/proceedings/sugi30/198-30.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2024 10:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/How-do-I-make-my-Mixed-model-work-with-AR-1-covariance-structure/m-p/779302#M96045</guid>
      <dc:creator>MRB3855</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-08-05T10:23:15Z</dc:date>
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