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    <title>topic Re: Resources or tutorials for metabolomics data analysis using JMP? in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/750655#M93176</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Metabolomic data can (and should) be analyzed as any other omic data. Articles about proteomic and transcriptomic data analyses should be applicable (sorry, I do not have specific examples to share). Depending on your level of comfort with JMP, the following may be too simple or too complex.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;To start, you may need to transform your intensities/Area under the Peak in Log format.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;When working with log-transformed data, the relative fold changes between conditions and a reference condition can be calculated as the difference between those. Note that a tall data format (all data stacked) can speed up this basic calculation.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;The Graph Builder Heat Map display can be useful for showing overall trends, but be aware that very large data sets (e.g., primary data) can stall the Graph Builder app.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You may want to explore the data using Principal Component Analysis to assess if there are obvious groups in the data that may indicate batch effects or other dominant trends.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;In terms of analyses, I tend to use the Fit model with some JSL coding to iterate across the different analytes. In this case, a wide data format is preferable where the cases/conditions are in rows, and the analytes are in columns.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Considering the breadth of possibilities regarding analyses, proposing direct solutions to your problem is rather challenging. I recommend writing an analysis plan to define your questions (e.g., which metabolites are differentially modulated between Condition A and B) and then seek specific help with those analyses.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2024 01:39:25 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Thierry_S</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-04-30T01:39:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Resources or tutorials for metabolomics data analysis using JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/749884#M93039</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have recommendations for resources (tutorials, websites, books, paper, etc) dealing with common metabolomics data analysis in JMP?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 18:21:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/749884#M93039</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mcc99</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-25T18:21:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Resources or tutorials for metabolomics data analysis using JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/749976#M93049</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Do you need help analyzing Mass Spectrometry spectra (highly specialized, likely not practical in JMP) or with large tables of metabolite relative or absolute quantities?&amp;nbsp; In the latter case, the metabolomic data can be treated as any other -omic (transcriptomic, proteomic) data and used in regression models, correlation, or more advanced models.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let us know what you need.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TS&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 20:18:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/749976#M93049</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thierry_S</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-25T20:18:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Resources or tutorials for metabolomics data analysis using JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/750640#M93171</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, with large tables of matabolites with peak intensities or peak areas. I'm more interested in the statistical methods after data cleanup, fragment identification, normalization, etc. Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 19:42:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/750640#M93171</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mcc99</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-29T19:42:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Resources or tutorials for metabolomics data analysis using JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/750655#M93176</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Metabolomic data can (and should) be analyzed as any other omic data. Articles about proteomic and transcriptomic data analyses should be applicable (sorry, I do not have specific examples to share). Depending on your level of comfort with JMP, the following may be too simple or too complex.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;To start, you may need to transform your intensities/Area under the Peak in Log format.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;When working with log-transformed data, the relative fold changes between conditions and a reference condition can be calculated as the difference between those. Note that a tall data format (all data stacked) can speed up this basic calculation.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;The Graph Builder Heat Map display can be useful for showing overall trends, but be aware that very large data sets (e.g., primary data) can stall the Graph Builder app.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You may want to explore the data using Principal Component Analysis to assess if there are obvious groups in the data that may indicate batch effects or other dominant trends.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;In terms of analyses, I tend to use the Fit model with some JSL coding to iterate across the different analytes. In this case, a wide data format is preferable where the cases/conditions are in rows, and the analytes are in columns.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Considering the breadth of possibilities regarding analyses, proposing direct solutions to your problem is rather challenging. I recommend writing an analysis plan to define your questions (e.g., which metabolites are differentially modulated between Condition A and B) and then seek specific help with those analyses.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2024 01:39:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Resources-or-tutorials-for-metabolomics-data-analysis-using-JMP/m-p/750655#M93176</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thierry_S</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-30T01:39:25Z</dc:date>
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