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    <title>topic Re: Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life? in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/45785"&gt;@ClusterFerret68&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The ADG method of example 1 in the attached is how the RL is typically calculated throughout the industry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.mbswonline.com/upload/presentation_5-25-2012-10-45-1.ppt" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.mbswonline.com/upload/presentation_5-25-2012-10-45-1.ppt&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:42:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MRB3855</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-04-03T22:42:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744157#M92382</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have recently been working with stability analysis (Degradation) and am running up against a wall with what should be fairly simple (I think).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a dataset from multiple lots and the data are poolable (valid for common slope, different intercepts).&amp;nbsp; I am trying to back calculate what release values would need to be to still be within the lower spec limit at X months.&amp;nbsp; I have the slope, but I'm not sure how to account for the confidence interval in the model.&amp;nbsp; I feel like this should be a fairly simple lift but I cannot seem to find how to do this without brute-forcing numbers into the model until I get the right value.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm happy to do more legwork...just hoping that someone can point me in the right direction.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chris&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 21:25:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ClusterFerret68</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-03T21:25:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744202#M92387</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;There is a data table Reliability/Stability in the Sample Data area.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you run the degradation script you will see a model with common slopes and separate intercepts.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;From the graph you can see the lower confidence bound of batch 2 (green) crosses the spec level at about time 4.5.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Open the Diagnostics and Predictions outline and there is a tab for Inverse Prediction.&amp;nbsp; Either try and make sense of that graph or from the red triangle choose "Save Crossing Time".&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:15:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-03T22:15:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744205#M92388</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Dave,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the response.&amp;nbsp; I think I wasn't explaining my situation correctly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have run the degradation script and have the common slope/different intercept parameters.&amp;nbsp; I also have have the projected expiry based on the ICH limits, etc., from that pooled model.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm wanting to go in the opposite direction.&amp;nbsp; Say, for example, that I have a lower spec limit of 1 mg/mL...and I want to know - based on the common slope&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;AND&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;accounting for the p=0.25 significance AND the 95%CI of the model - what my starting concentration would need to be for the model confidence interval to not drop below 1 mg/mL at a certain timepoint.&amp;nbsp; I can get the answer by brute force...but I'm assuming that there's a better approach to doing this.&amp;nbsp; For example, is it possible to save the model describing the lower 95%CI of the pooled fit and then do an inverse prediction, etc.?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry I didn't go into more detail at first.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chris&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:40:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ClusterFerret68</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-03T22:40:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744209#M92390</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/45785"&gt;@ClusterFerret68&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The ADG method of example 1 in the attached is how the RL is typically calculated throughout the industry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.mbswonline.com/upload/presentation_5-25-2012-10-45-1.ppt" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.mbswonline.com/upload/presentation_5-25-2012-10-45-1.ppt&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:42:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744209#M92390</guid>
      <dc:creator>MRB3855</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-03T22:42:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744213#M92391</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/7073"&gt;@MRB3855&lt;/a&gt; - I'll spend some time on this this evening.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Chris&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:50:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744213#M92391</guid>
      <dc:creator>ClusterFerret68</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-03T22:50:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Stability Analysis: How do I back calculate release values necessary to support shelf life?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Stability-Analysis-How-do-I-back-calculate-release-values/m-p/744216#M92392</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/45785"&gt;@ClusterFerret68&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Using the fit model platform, you’ll have stability time-point and batch as effects. Batch should be set as random. You’ll then have all the inputs you need as shown in example 1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 23:00:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MRB3855</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-04-03T23:00:36Z</dc:date>
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