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    <title>topic Re: dimensionality reduction question in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/dimensionality-reduction-question/m-p/737185#M91817</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I find this an interesting question.&amp;nbsp; The usual interest in dimensionality reduction is in the predictors - and PCA, predictor screening , or clustering (all easily done in JMP) can be used there.&amp;nbsp; But in those cases, the response variable is either given or irrelevant.&amp;nbsp; You seem to be asking about reducing the number of potential response variables.&amp;nbsp; I don't think this can be answered directly from the data - if some response variables are more important than others, that implies there is some overarching response variable (perhaps unmeasured) for which the multiple response variables you have are related to.&amp;nbsp; I would think you need to specify how these variables contribute to the overall response.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As an example, I have done a number of analyses of the College Scorecard data.&amp;nbsp; Among the many potential response variables are:&amp;nbsp; earnings X years after graduation, total debt upon graduation, total repayment X years after graduation, total defaults X years after graduation, etc (all can be broken down by various graduate demographics).&amp;nbsp; The most common item of interest is how college education affects lifetime earnings or financial well-being.&amp;nbsp; That ultimate response variable is not easily measured, while any of the above response variables are measured.&amp;nbsp; What is needed is something to link the measured response variables to the ultimate unmeasured thing of interest.&amp;nbsp; A way to proceed might be to build a theory about how earnings and debt interact over time to produce financial well-being.&amp;nbsp; That theory would provide weightings of the response variables and possibly the form of a model to predict financial well-being.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't think this is a task that can be answered from the data without a theory to provide structure to the multiple response variables, unlike the task of choosing/weighting predictor variables (which can be "answered" by analyzing the data).&amp;nbsp; If this is a physical process (where the response variables are various measurements of strength, resilience, reliability, etc.), specifying the theory linking the response variables should be an easier task.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 13:14:42 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>dlehman1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-03-21T13:14:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>dimensionality reduction question</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/dimensionality-reduction-question/m-p/737154#M91816</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A colleague is wrestling with the following problem and I thought I would share it here. He has some multivariate data with multiple factors and multiple measured responses for each experimental scenario.&amp;nbsp; The responses differ in their significance to the project- some are more important than others.&amp;nbsp; He would like a way of visualising the data using a smaller number of responses, whilst taking into account some sort of weighting, preferably adjustable, that he would assign to the parent responses.&amp;nbsp; What sort of approach is required here, and can JMP help?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:40:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kjwx109</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-03-21T12:40:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: dimensionality reduction question</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/dimensionality-reduction-question/m-p/737185#M91817</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I find this an interesting question.&amp;nbsp; The usual interest in dimensionality reduction is in the predictors - and PCA, predictor screening , or clustering (all easily done in JMP) can be used there.&amp;nbsp; But in those cases, the response variable is either given or irrelevant.&amp;nbsp; You seem to be asking about reducing the number of potential response variables.&amp;nbsp; I don't think this can be answered directly from the data - if some response variables are more important than others, that implies there is some overarching response variable (perhaps unmeasured) for which the multiple response variables you have are related to.&amp;nbsp; I would think you need to specify how these variables contribute to the overall response.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As an example, I have done a number of analyses of the College Scorecard data.&amp;nbsp; Among the many potential response variables are:&amp;nbsp; earnings X years after graduation, total debt upon graduation, total repayment X years after graduation, total defaults X years after graduation, etc (all can be broken down by various graduate demographics).&amp;nbsp; The most common item of interest is how college education affects lifetime earnings or financial well-being.&amp;nbsp; That ultimate response variable is not easily measured, while any of the above response variables are measured.&amp;nbsp; What is needed is something to link the measured response variables to the ultimate unmeasured thing of interest.&amp;nbsp; A way to proceed might be to build a theory about how earnings and debt interact over time to produce financial well-being.&amp;nbsp; That theory would provide weightings of the response variables and possibly the form of a model to predict financial well-being.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't think this is a task that can be answered from the data without a theory to provide structure to the multiple response variables, unlike the task of choosing/weighting predictor variables (which can be "answered" by analyzing the data).&amp;nbsp; If this is a physical process (where the response variables are various measurements of strength, resilience, reliability, etc.), specifying the theory linking the response variables should be an easier task.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 13:14:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/dimensionality-reduction-question/m-p/737185#M91817</guid>
      <dc:creator>dlehman1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-03-21T13:14:42Z</dc:date>
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