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    <title>topic Re: Measurement System Analysis in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm a bit confused, when you run the machine do all 24 parts get measured (batch)? &amp;nbsp;If so you need 3 machine runs, each run consists of 24 parts. OR is it done one-at-a-time (in which case you get 72 runs?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why do you need a crossed design? &amp;nbsp;Are you suspicious of interactions between pats and locations? Why?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You could try a sampling approach. &amp;nbsp;For example, do you have any hypotheses as to why there would be differences in location within machine? &amp;nbsp;Is there any historical data that points to certain locations having issues (or not)? &amp;nbsp;If you don't have any hypotheses regarding why they are different, you could randomly select a subset of locations, though I'm not sure that would help as you still need repeats. &amp;nbsp;You could reduce the number of repeats to 2 to start and look at the data and see if you need more data.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've attached a data table for data entry. &amp;nbsp;Again you could do the first 2 repeats and then analyze.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Remember it is critical the parts chosen for the study represent the variation you want the measurement system to be able to discriminate.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:42:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-12-14T17:42:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Measurement System Analysis</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Measurement-System-Analysis/m-p/709449#M89340</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have to conduct a Measurement System Analysis on a machine that takes 24 parts every time at fixed positions. The position inside the machine would be my operator.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I want to conduct a full crossed Gauge R&amp;amp;R with 3 repetitions, I have to run the machine 72 times (24*3).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a way to design an MSA that reduces the number of measurements?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have tried the MSA design, but I don't know how to set that each measurement actually consists of 24 single measurements tied together in a batch.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 16:12:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bbenny7</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-14T16:12:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Measurement System Analysis</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Measurement-System-Analysis/m-p/709492#M89341</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm a bit confused, when you run the machine do all 24 parts get measured (batch)? &amp;nbsp;If so you need 3 machine runs, each run consists of 24 parts. OR is it done one-at-a-time (in which case you get 72 runs?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why do you need a crossed design? &amp;nbsp;Are you suspicious of interactions between pats and locations? Why?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You could try a sampling approach. &amp;nbsp;For example, do you have any hypotheses as to why there would be differences in location within machine? &amp;nbsp;Is there any historical data that points to certain locations having issues (or not)? &amp;nbsp;If you don't have any hypotheses regarding why they are different, you could randomly select a subset of locations, though I'm not sure that would help as you still need repeats. &amp;nbsp;You could reduce the number of repeats to 2 to start and look at the data and see if you need more data.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I've attached a data table for data entry. &amp;nbsp;Again you could do the first 2 repeats and then analyze.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Remember it is critical the parts chosen for the study represent the variation you want the measurement system to be able to discriminate.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:42:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Measurement-System-Analysis/m-p/709492#M89341</guid>
      <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-14T17:42:39Z</dc:date>
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