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    <title>topic Getting NonEstimable values when crossing variables due to control setup in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm working on a dataset where we are testing the effects of 2 treatments and the delay between them, and I'm trying to figure out how to line up my variables so I can do a Dunnett's test against various controls.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We are giving animals a dose of drug A (Variable A), waiting some time (T), and then giving them a dose of drug B . If the animal is NOT given drug A (= 0), then T doesn't have a meaning, so I've been setting it as -1.&amp;nbsp; Similarly, there is no meaning if the animal does not receive drug B, which I've ALSO been setting at T=-1. Therefore all what I'm considering to be the controls (either no A or no B) have a T=-1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="eberndl_0-1699641376236.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/58561iCCC869B041AF558E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="eberndl_0-1699641376236.png" alt="eberndl_0-1699641376236.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've been creating my graph using graph builder and then launching a standard least squares analysis.&amp;nbsp; If I use A, B and T to model the effects, I get values, but if I want to look at the interactions, everything falls apart and all my means become NonEstimable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand that this is because there is no overlap between my T=-1 and my other time points, but I don't know how to say that a T=-1 for A=0, B=0 is the same value as a T = 0, 1 or 2.&amp;nbsp; Do I just replicate my data with multiple T's?&amp;nbsp; Do I need to put weighting on that pseudo data to make sure the standard deviations are accurate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:48:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>eberndl</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-11-10T18:48:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Getting NonEstimable values when crossing variables due to control setup</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Getting-NonEstimable-values-when-crossing-variables-due-to/m-p/696902#M88211</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm working on a dataset where we are testing the effects of 2 treatments and the delay between them, and I'm trying to figure out how to line up my variables so I can do a Dunnett's test against various controls.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We are giving animals a dose of drug A (Variable A), waiting some time (T), and then giving them a dose of drug B . If the animal is NOT given drug A (= 0), then T doesn't have a meaning, so I've been setting it as -1.&amp;nbsp; Similarly, there is no meaning if the animal does not receive drug B, which I've ALSO been setting at T=-1. Therefore all what I'm considering to be the controls (either no A or no B) have a T=-1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="eberndl_0-1699641376236.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/58561iCCC869B041AF558E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="eberndl_0-1699641376236.png" alt="eberndl_0-1699641376236.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've been creating my graph using graph builder and then launching a standard least squares analysis.&amp;nbsp; If I use A, B and T to model the effects, I get values, but if I want to look at the interactions, everything falls apart and all my means become NonEstimable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand that this is because there is no overlap between my T=-1 and my other time points, but I don't know how to say that a T=-1 for A=0, B=0 is the same value as a T = 0, 1 or 2.&amp;nbsp; Do I just replicate my data with multiple T's?&amp;nbsp; Do I need to put weighting on that pseudo data to make sure the standard deviations are accurate?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:48:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Getting-NonEstimable-values-when-crossing-variables-due-to/m-p/696902#M88211</guid>
      <dc:creator>eberndl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-10T18:48:35Z</dc:date>
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