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    <title>topic Re: Two-way ANOVA with randomized complete block design in JMP? in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I'm understanding your question correctly, you just need to use Analyze -&amp;gt; Fit Model and add Sample Method, Chemical and Well as effects.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="6828_JMPScreenSnapz001.png" style="width: 1708px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/589iC140E82B88C17D98/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="6828_JMPScreenSnapz001.png" alt="6828_JMPScreenSnapz001.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could designate Well as a Random Effect using the Attributes menu but I don't think that's necessary.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="6829_JMPScreenSnapz003.png" style="width: 818px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/590iE72D6DC0A309839A/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="6829_JMPScreenSnapz003.png" alt="6829_JMPScreenSnapz003.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Jeff&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2016 21:11:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Jeff_Perkinson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-10-18T21:11:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Two-way ANOVA with randomized complete block design in JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Two-way-ANOVA-with-randomized-complete-block-design-in-JMP/m-p/8678#M8669</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am trying to perform an ANOVA on a set of data with three variables: sample method (two different methods), chemicals (three different chemicals), and groundwater wells (12 different wells).&amp;nbsp; It is a randomized compete block design, as both methods and all three chemicals are tested from each well.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to set this up as a two-way (method and chemical) with the wells as blocks.&amp;nbsp; I see the ability to designate blocks in the one-way ANOVA setup, but no way to designate this in the two-way ANOVA setup.&amp;nbsp; I know this is possible in SAS, but I do not have access to that program and am trying to do this in JMP, if possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 22:05:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jhess</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-06T22:05:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Two-way ANOVA with randomized complete block design in JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Two-way-ANOVA-with-randomized-complete-block-design-in-JMP/m-p/8679#M8670</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would also like to see the response to this question.&amp;nbsp; I have had the same issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:37:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>george_waltensp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-09T13:37:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Two-way ANOVA with randomized complete block design in JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Two-way-ANOVA-with-randomized-complete-block-design-in-JMP/m-p/8680#M8671</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I'm understanding your question correctly, you just need to use Analyze -&amp;gt; Fit Model and add Sample Method, Chemical and Well as effects.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="6828_JMPScreenSnapz001.png" style="width: 1708px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/589iC140E82B88C17D98/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="6828_JMPScreenSnapz001.png" alt="6828_JMPScreenSnapz001.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You could designate Well as a Random Effect using the Attributes menu but I don't think that's necessary.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="6829_JMPScreenSnapz003.png" style="width: 818px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/590iE72D6DC0A309839A/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="6829_JMPScreenSnapz003.png" alt="6829_JMPScreenSnapz003.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Jeff&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2016 21:11:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Two-way-ANOVA-with-randomized-complete-block-design-in-JMP/m-p/8680#M8671</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jeff_Perkinson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-18T21:11:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Two-way ANOVA with randomized complete block design in JMP?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Two-way-ANOVA-with-randomized-complete-block-design-in-JMP/m-p/8681#M8672</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;It sounds like &lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;sample method and chemicals are measured factorially, which means for each Well you actually have 2 observations for each chemical, and 3 observations for each sample method (the hidden replication of a factorial design). This means certain additional terms are estimatable. The largest model would include as factors: &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;Sample Method, Chemicals, Sample Method x Chemicals, Well, Well x Chemical, Well x Sample method (but not the three way interaction, since that is not estimatable unless you have a full replication of the within-well factorial). This is like what Jeff showed above but with the interactions you can estimate.&amp;nbsp; To define an interaction you can select a source in the model effects and another variable in the cols list to the left, then click "Cross". &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;In your case you have nearly a three way factorial -- you're missing only the highest order interaction. Since that's the case you can select all three variables in the list on the left of fit model, then go to "Macros" and select "Full Factorial" or "Factorial Sorted" -- the latter is my preference because it groups the terms starting with lower-order effects first. If you use one of these macros you will have an additional effect (the three way interaction) that you can't estimate, so you can simply delete it from the model effects list. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;So why no three way interaction? The factorial combination of sample Method and chemical draw out a 2x3 = 6 cell design, so at each level of well you need at least 6 observations to estimate that structure. You gain the interactions of well x chemical, and well x sample method because you actually do have a replicates of chemical and sample method within a given well (they happen to be across the levels of another factor, but that's fine, the model estimates that offset). If you have a full design replication (e.g. 12 observations for each well, 2 for each combination of sample method and chemical) you gain the ability to estimate that three-way interaction since there is data on which to assess the "stability" of the two way interactions across the level of a third variable. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;As for whether or not to treat well (and the interactions with well) as a random effect, I'd ask yourself whether you would choose these same wells if you were to replicate the study. If these wells in particular would be selected again, they're not random effects. If these wells are a subset of wells and a replication would lead to choosing different wells at random, then the estimates for well are random and the sources should be marked as so. This can be done by selecting the source in the effects list, then click "Attributes" and select "Random."&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;I hope this helps!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"&gt;Julian&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 20:40:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Two-way-ANOVA-with-randomized-complete-block-design-in-JMP/m-p/8681#M8672</guid>
      <dc:creator>jules</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-02T20:40:51Z</dc:date>
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