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    <title>topic Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/677411#M86375</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;With profiler it is not possible to use a categorical noise effect? Is there another way to specify robust process settings?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>frankderuyck</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-09-13T15:00:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/677411#M86375</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;With profiler it is not possible to use a categorical noise effect? Is there another way to specify robust process settings?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/677411#M86375</guid>
      <dc:creator>frankderuyck</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-13T15:00:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/677902#M86431</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Effects or Responses&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:33:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/677902#M86431</guid>
      <dc:creator>Byron_JMP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-14T19:33:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/678782#M86512</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Find robust process settings for a categorical noise factor on a continuous response&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:05:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/678782#M86512</guid>
      <dc:creator>frankderuyck</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-18T15:05:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/681526#M86711</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/283"&gt;@frankderuyck&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;From what I understand from your situation, there may be several options available :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can consider your categorical factor as a random effect (or noise), as you're interested on the variance caused by this factor, not by the change on the mean response.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can also use the Simulator, to add random noise to a categorical factor and assess how this may change the response distribution.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For the suggestion 1), I used the sample dataset "DOE Example 1" in the JMP sample index (in DoE). I changed the design role property of "Operator" to "Random Block", and run a model with the following effects :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_0-1695799383275.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/57009iCA4CD0DD1793A241/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Victor_G_0-1695799383275.png" alt="Victor_G_0-1695799383275.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I end up with a Profiler that takes into account the variability introduced by the random effect "Operator" :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_1-1695799441515.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/57010iABD36F02DC79D258/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Victor_G_1-1695799441515.png" alt="Victor_G_1-1695799441515.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If using the profiler with Operator as a categorical fixed effect (or if set up as random effect, I can click on the red triangle next to the profiler, and make "Operator" factor appears by clicking on "Conditional Predictions"), I can use the Simulator, specify the type of noise (here I choose "Random" with a probability of 50% for each operator) and then click on Simulate :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_2-1695799624400.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/57011i6A1C23B3DC54846B/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Victor_G_2-1695799624400.png" alt="Victor_G_2-1695799624400.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The two approaches are conceptually different (a random effect suppose that these 2 operators are part of a bigger, unknown population which may also impact the variance of the results, whereas the Simulator uses only these 2 possible options to compute the results distribution) and lead to different results, so depending on your topic you may find one more relevant than the other.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I hope this will help you,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:35:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/681526#M86711</guid>
      <dc:creator>Victor_G</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-27T07:35:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Robust process setting with a categorical noise effect</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/681594#M86715</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Very useful Victor, thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:34:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Robust-process-setting-with-a-categorical-noise-effect/m-p/681594#M86715</guid>
      <dc:creator>frankderuyck</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-27T10:34:27Z</dc:date>
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