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    <title>topic Multivariate Control Chart Run Rules in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/664896#M85334</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Is it possible in JMP (or even appropriate statistically) when using multivariate (T&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;2&lt;/FONT&gt;) control charts to use run rules other than run rule #1 (result above upper control limit)?&amp;nbsp; For example, run rule #2 for nine consecutive results above the mean/median.&amp;nbsp; Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 20:48:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>gfirmstone</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-08-02T20:48:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Multivariate Control Chart Run Rules</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/664896#M85334</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is it possible in JMP (or even appropriate statistically) when using multivariate (T&lt;FONT face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;2&lt;/FONT&gt;) control charts to use run rules other than run rule #1 (result above upper control limit)?&amp;nbsp; For example, run rule #2 for nine consecutive results above the mean/median.&amp;nbsp; Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 20:48:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gfirmstone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-08-02T20:48:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multivariate Control Chart Run Rules</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/665659#M85397</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/23152"&gt;@gfirmstone&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am certainly not an expert but in an effort to get some conversation going, I will share my thoughts.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think one of the primary challenges is that typical univariate control charts have an assumption of normality.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Hotelling's T^2 distribution is more or less an F distribution.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;This difference would therefore mean that rules requiring X standard deviations for n iterations etc would be different simply because the probabilities of being those number of standard deviations away from the mean would differ due to different distributions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The second difference is that a T^2 control chart is one sided where many of the run rule control charts look at responses above and below.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;There really isn't a below for a T^2 control chart.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All that said, many of these run rules are developed based on experience and are better described as best practices.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I suppose it would be possible to mathematically calculate analogs of each of the run rules to make the frequency of random occurrence in a F distribution type variable like T^2 be equivalent to a normal distribution variable.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; In general though, you are likely safe to apply the rules (at least the ones that can be applied to a one sided chart).&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;If T^2 is elevated for 9 continuous samples, there is likely something worth investigating etc.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The run rules merely flag an observation as something that needs to be investigated for cause.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;So, the risk is rather low.&amp;nbsp; If you find that applying the same run rules to T^2 is causing too frequent or too infrequent investigation, you could certainly adjust to something that fits.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2023 15:59:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/665659#M85397</guid>
      <dc:creator>DrewLuebe</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-08-04T15:59:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multivariate Control Chart Run Rules</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/666269#M85445</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks very much DrewLuebe for your reply.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;That all makes total sense, appreciate your thoughts very much.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2023 15:09:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/666269#M85445</guid>
      <dc:creator>gfirmstone</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-08-07T15:09:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Multivariate Control Chart Run Rules</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/666656#M85471</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Great review&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/21841"&gt;@DrewLuebe&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There seems to be a lot of discussion around picking limits for T2 and DModX/SPE, but not so much about what to do when a limit is crossed, so I think this is a great topic.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; My experience is that, just like in univariate control charting, in order to pick a limit that is&amp;nbsp;&lt;EM&gt;useful&lt;/EM&gt;, it tends to be close enough to the data that some data points will cross that boundary by random chance.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here are some other techniques to maximize the relevance of SPE and T2 deviations:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Smoothing&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Reducing noise from inputs means limits means the T2 limit does not need to expand to compensate for that noise.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Transformations&lt;/STRONG&gt; - With non-linear data, one side of a cluster of data might have a very definite edge while the opposite side has a lot of noise.&amp;nbsp; The T2 and DModX boundries tend to be defined by the noisy side, which means deviations are missed on the well-defined side.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2023 14:19:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Multivariate-Control-Chart-Run-Rules/m-p/666656#M85471</guid>
      <dc:creator>ih</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-08-08T14:19:09Z</dc:date>
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