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    <title>topic Re: Linear mixed model - assumption of homoscedasticity violated in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Linear-mixed-model-assumption-of-homoscedasticity-violated/m-p/527860#M75159</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;First, welcome to the community. &amp;nbsp;Here are my initial thoughts (Analysis should always follow this order: Practical&amp;gt;Graphical&amp;gt;Quantitative):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Plot the data. &amp;nbsp;You can use Graph Builder or Multivariate Methods&amp;gt;Multivariate to get scatter plot matrices.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Plot the data. &amp;nbsp;Determine if the variation in the response of practical value (did it vary enough?)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Plot the data. Quantitative analysis is used to support the conclusions from the graphical analysis. &amp;nbsp;There are no required assumptions to plot the data.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 18:13:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-07-28T18:13:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Linear mixed model - assumption of homoscedasticity violated</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Linear-mixed-model-assumption-of-homoscedasticity-violated/m-p/527818#M75157</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi JMP users&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am trying to assess the infuence of sex (nominal), altitude (nominal) and latitude (nominal) on corrected wing size (continuous; residual of wing size by body mass) of an animal species. I considered altitude as a nominal factor given the fact that this particular species is mainly distributed at the extremes (low and high) of steep elevational gradients in my study area. I also considered latitude as a nominal fixed factor given the fact that I have sampled individuals only at three main latitudinal levels (north, center and south).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have been suggested to use Linear Mixed Model for this analysis. Specifically, considering sex, altitude, latitude, sex:latitude, sex:altitude, and altitude:latitude as fixed factors, and collection site (nominal) as the random effect. The latter given the clustered distribution of the collection sites. However, I noticed that despite the corrected wing size follow a normal distribution, it violates the assumption of homoscedasticity among some altitudinal/latitudinal groups. Can I still use linear mixed model in jmp? If not, what other option can I pursue to analize my data?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance for your kind attention.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 00:53:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AlexisDiaz92</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-09T00:53:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Linear mixed model - assumption of homoscedasticity violated</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Linear-mixed-model-assumption-of-homoscedasticity-violated/m-p/527860#M75159</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;First, welcome to the community. &amp;nbsp;Here are my initial thoughts (Analysis should always follow this order: Practical&amp;gt;Graphical&amp;gt;Quantitative):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Plot the data. &amp;nbsp;You can use Graph Builder or Multivariate Methods&amp;gt;Multivariate to get scatter plot matrices.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Plot the data. &amp;nbsp;Determine if the variation in the response of practical value (did it vary enough?)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Plot the data. Quantitative analysis is used to support the conclusions from the graphical analysis. &amp;nbsp;There are no required assumptions to plot the data.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 18:13:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Linear-mixed-model-assumption-of-homoscedasticity-violated/m-p/527860#M75159</guid>
      <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-07-28T18:13:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Linear mixed model - assumption of homoscedasticity violated</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Linear-mixed-model-assumption-of-homoscedasticity-violated/m-p/528018#M75178</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Adding to&amp;nbsp;@statmans helpful suggestions,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I like the variability plot,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and also like to look at random data (where no effect should be found).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The script below will generate that data.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And follow the path from simple analysis (e.g. distribution and also fit y by x) to complex (mixed model analysis).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Georg_0-1659085983888.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/44404iF392BDEC36DCBFA8/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Georg_0-1659085983888.png" alt="Georg_0-1659085983888.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-jsl"&gt;Names Default To Here( 1 );

// Generate a data table with random data
doe_obj = DOE(
	Full Factorial Design,
	{Add Response( Maximize, "size", ., ., . ), Add Factor( Categorical, {"m", "f"}, "sex", 0 ), Add Factor(
		Categorical,
		{"north", "center", "south"},
		"latitude",
		0
	), Add Factor( Categorical, {"low", "high"}, "altitude", 0 ), Set Random Seed( 35445577 ), Make Design, Replicates( 10 ), Simulate Responses( 0 ),
	Set Run Order( Randomize )}
);
dt = doe_obj &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Make Table;
doe_obj &amp;lt;&amp;lt; close window;
// generate random response
dt:size &amp;lt;&amp;lt; set Formula( Random Normal() );

// Variability chart
dt &amp;lt;&amp;lt; Variability Chart( Y( :size ), X( :sex, :latitude, :altitude ) )&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2022 09:16:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Linear-mixed-model-assumption-of-homoscedasticity-violated/m-p/528018#M75178</guid>
      <dc:creator>Georg</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-07-29T09:16:34Z</dc:date>
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