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    <title>topic Variability investigation in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Variability-investigation/m-p/492190#M73330</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear all&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is Mike.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am now investigating Variation Component.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It looks like that easiest way to split variation is, using Variability chart.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, it looks like I cannot split several variation individually.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In other words, I have several variation source of interest.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Between day&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Between operator&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Between Lot&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Between sampling point&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. within Lot&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6. within repeatability condition (between replicate)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, if I put [day, operator, lot, point] as Grouping Factor, X, and put [vial] as Part,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;JMP gives me a no reasonable answer (R&amp;amp;R= 91%), whereas when I put only [operator] as X, and put [vial] as Part, JMP gives me 35% (which is reasonable).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So... is there any other method to split all of these specific source of variability?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How can I make JMP to understand that&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[day, operator] as reproducibility&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[lot, point, vial(part)] as part variability&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[replicates variability for individual part] as repeatability&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Additionally I know the theory of split-plot design, nested design and how to figure out their Var.Comp to define respective Variance(each source).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But, this is only theory and I practically cannot do this by my hand.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot find the proper JMP menu...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If it is there, please let me know.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Note that individual vial can be tested 3 times by one person, but destructive sothat cannot be tested by the other person. So I am very confused whether I can apply crossed design to this. Personnally, I think I can suppose whole vials can be regarded as ONE Lot since our process is supposed to be similar and comparable to their reportable value.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I appreciate you to read this far.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 00:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MikeKim</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-09T00:50:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Variability investigation</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Variability-investigation/m-p/492190#M73330</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear all&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is Mike.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am now investigating Variation Component.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It looks like that easiest way to split variation is, using Variability chart.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, it looks like I cannot split several variation individually.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In other words, I have several variation source of interest.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Between day&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Between operator&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. Between Lot&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Between sampling point&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5. within Lot&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6. within repeatability condition (between replicate)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, if I put [day, operator, lot, point] as Grouping Factor, X, and put [vial] as Part,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;JMP gives me a no reasonable answer (R&amp;amp;R= 91%), whereas when I put only [operator] as X, and put [vial] as Part, JMP gives me 35% (which is reasonable).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So... is there any other method to split all of these specific source of variability?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How can I make JMP to understand that&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[day, operator] as reproducibility&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[lot, point, vial(part)] as part variability&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;[replicates variability for individual part] as repeatability&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Additionally I know the theory of split-plot design, nested design and how to figure out their Var.Comp to define respective Variance(each source).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But, this is only theory and I practically cannot do this by my hand.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I cannot find the proper JMP menu...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If it is there, please let me know.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Note that individual vial can be tested 3 times by one person, but destructive sothat cannot be tested by the other person. So I am very confused whether I can apply crossed design to this. Personnally, I think I can suppose whole vials can be regarded as ONE Lot since our process is supposed to be similar and comparable to their reportable value.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I appreciate you to read this far.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 00:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Variability-investigation/m-p/492190#M73330</guid>
      <dc:creator>MikeKim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-09T00:50:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Variability investigation</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Variability-investigation/m-p/492401#M73335</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You can use Analyze &amp;gt; Fit Model instead to estimate the variance components. See the &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/16.2/#page/jmp/model-specification.shtml#" target="_self"&gt;Fitting Linear Models&lt;/A&gt; guide in JMP Help to understand how to enter the data columns in the launch dialog. The dialog supports nesting (it assumes crossed factor levels). It supports random effects.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 12:35:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Variability-investigation/m-p/492401#M73335</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-05-25T12:35:06Z</dc:date>
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