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    <title>topic survival analysis of data with three possible outcomes in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm analyzing retention in a STEM educational program, with two treatment groups (experimental vs case control). For these students, there are three possible outcomes: persisting but not yet graduated, graduated, and dropped out (or changed major). I understand that 'dropped out' would normally be censored but really this is as interesting an outcome as graduated or persisted.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a strategy to analyze survival time to graduate versus drop out simultaneously? Or do I have to run a separate analysis of likelihood of persisting, and then only include retained students in the survival analysis?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;LE Higgins&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Version of JMP: Pro 14 on a Mac.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 20:05:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>survival analysis of data with three possible outcomes</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/survival-analysis-of-data-with-three-possible-outcomes/m-p/448692#M69663</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm analyzing retention in a STEM educational program, with two treatment groups (experimental vs case control). For these students, there are three possible outcomes: persisting but not yet graduated, graduated, and dropped out (or changed major). I understand that 'dropped out' would normally be censored but really this is as interesting an outcome as graduated or persisted.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there a strategy to analyze survival time to graduate versus drop out simultaneously? Or do I have to run a separate analysis of likelihood of persisting, and then only include retained students in the survival analysis?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;LE Higgins&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Version of JMP: Pro 14 on a Mac.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 20:05:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>LEHiggins</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-03T20:05:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: survival analysis of data with three possible outcomes</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/survival-analysis-of-data-with-three-possible-outcomes/m-p/449237#M69664</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Maybe look at this way. You have three labels: "student", "graduated", "dropout". Do not treat "dropout" as censored, but a sure event. You have two events here: "graduate" and "dropout". It is "student" that is censored. Because you don't know whether a "student" will graduate or dropout, and when a "student" will graduate or will dropout. Following such a direction, the problem fits into "Competing Cause" problems. The competing causes are: "graduate" and "dropout", which ever happens first. From there, there may be different approaches to model, separately or simultaneously, depending on assumptions and objectives.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 17:14:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>peng_liu</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-01-05T17:14:28Z</dc:date>
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