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    <title>topic Permutation Tests and Monte Carlo Cross Validations Using the Simulation Platform in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to do permutation tests and Monte Carlo Cross Validations with the Iris sample dataset as a MWE for our dataset. I'm not sure if I'm doing things and interpreting output correctly.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) Create New Formula Column (Random-&amp;gt;Sample Without Replacement) for the Species Column for Permutation Test.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2) Create a Validation Column (0.75/0.25 split) and a new Formula Column&amp;nbsp;(Random-&amp;gt;Sample Without Replacement) using this for Monte Carlo Cross Validation&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_0-1638371838261.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38063iE6B573EC4A6D8381/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_0-1638371838261.png" alt="mjmg_0-1638371838261.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3) Run the Discriminant Platform with the Validation column and display the ROC curves. Use the Simulate Platform on the Area of the ROC Curve&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_3-1638372772720.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38066iF875A0DCB712BCF1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_3-1638372772720.png" alt="mjmg_3-1638372772720.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.1) For the Permutation Test-Select Species as column to switch out and Shuffle[Species] as column to Switch In. Enter the desired number of random sampling and random seed and run the simulation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_1-1638372281372.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38064iB0CCF2FE26E202C7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_1-1638372281372.png" alt="mjmg_1-1638372281372.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.2) View the Distributions script and take note of the empirical p-value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_2-1638372528310.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38065i0FEF32D79891D31C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_2-1638372528310.png" alt="mjmg_2-1638372528310.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5.1) For the Monte Carlo Cross Validation-Select Validation as column to switch out and Shuffle[Validation] as column to Switch In. Enter the desired number of random sampling and random seed and run the simulation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_4-1638372900805.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38067i19A16A28FF6D97FF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_4-1638372900805.png" alt="mjmg_4-1638372900805.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5.2) View the Distributions script and take note of the empirical p-value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_5-1638373060746.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38068iC26F245EB84EED44/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_5-1638373060746.png" alt="mjmg_5-1638373060746.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6) Assuming what I did is correct (testing the Area of ROC curve), the low p-value from the Permutation test is expected, but what about the large p-value for the Monte Carlo cross validation? How should this be interpreted?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 00:42:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>mjmg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-09T00:42:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Permutation Tests and Monte Carlo Cross Validations Using the Simulation Platform</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Permutation-Tests-and-Monte-Carlo-Cross-Validations-Using-the/m-p/441206#M68955</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to do permutation tests and Monte Carlo Cross Validations with the Iris sample dataset as a MWE for our dataset. I'm not sure if I'm doing things and interpreting output correctly.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) Create New Formula Column (Random-&amp;gt;Sample Without Replacement) for the Species Column for Permutation Test.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2) Create a Validation Column (0.75/0.25 split) and a new Formula Column&amp;nbsp;(Random-&amp;gt;Sample Without Replacement) using this for Monte Carlo Cross Validation&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_0-1638371838261.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38063iE6B573EC4A6D8381/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_0-1638371838261.png" alt="mjmg_0-1638371838261.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3) Run the Discriminant Platform with the Validation column and display the ROC curves. Use the Simulate Platform on the Area of the ROC Curve&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_3-1638372772720.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38066iF875A0DCB712BCF1/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_3-1638372772720.png" alt="mjmg_3-1638372772720.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.1) For the Permutation Test-Select Species as column to switch out and Shuffle[Species] as column to Switch In. Enter the desired number of random sampling and random seed and run the simulation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_1-1638372281372.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38064iB0CCF2FE26E202C7/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_1-1638372281372.png" alt="mjmg_1-1638372281372.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.2) View the Distributions script and take note of the empirical p-value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_2-1638372528310.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38065i0FEF32D79891D31C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_2-1638372528310.png" alt="mjmg_2-1638372528310.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5.1) For the Monte Carlo Cross Validation-Select Validation as column to switch out and Shuffle[Validation] as column to Switch In. Enter the desired number of random sampling and random seed and run the simulation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_4-1638372900805.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38067i19A16A28FF6D97FF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_4-1638372900805.png" alt="mjmg_4-1638372900805.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5.2) View the Distributions script and take note of the empirical p-value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="mjmg_5-1638373060746.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/38068iC26F245EB84EED44/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="mjmg_5-1638373060746.png" alt="mjmg_5-1638373060746.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6) Assuming what I did is correct (testing the Area of ROC curve), the low p-value from the Permutation test is expected, but what about the large p-value for the Monte Carlo cross validation? How should this be interpreted?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 00:42:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Permutation-Tests-and-Monte-Carlo-Cross-Validations-Using-the/m-p/441206#M68955</guid>
      <dc:creator>mjmg</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-09T00:42:35Z</dc:date>
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