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    <title>topic Re: DoE with fixed sum volume in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419559#M66852</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;The approach you have mentioned is known as a slack-variable approach. P4 takes the slack to make the total sum to a constant value.&amp;nbsp; That can make sense, if P4 represents a bulk item (e.g. water) with other parameters being much smaller components.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;What are describing is a mixture problem.&amp;nbsp; Look under DOE&amp;gt;Classical and you will find options for mixture designs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 10:04:41 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-09-21T10:04:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>DoE with fixed sum volume</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419552#M66851</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am working in formulation team and a very new to DoE. Need guidance for a DoE with below conditions:&lt;BR /&gt;there are 5 factors : P1 (%), P2 (%), P3 (%), P4 (%) and P5 (ppm)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;P4 is used for volume make up &amp;amp; the equation is P4 = 100 - (P1+P2+P3)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;P4 also has effect on Y (response).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;P1, P2 and P3 have 2 level discrete values while P5 has 3 level discrete value.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please see the image for reference:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="SIBH_0-1632218036768.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/35968i91DA176B30166DCF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="SIBH_0-1632218036768.png" alt="SIBH_0-1632218036768.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My queries:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. how to include P4 and keep the total (P1+P2+P3+P4)=100&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. Previously we tried to do DoE with only P1, P2, P3 and P5 and after designing, added P4 manually to resultant DoE table (i.e. P4= 100-(P1+P2+P3)) - is it recommended?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Much Thanks-&lt;BR /&gt;Simanti&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 21:05:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SIBH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-08T21:05:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DoE with fixed sum volume</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419559#M66852</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The approach you have mentioned is known as a slack-variable approach. P4 takes the slack to make the total sum to a constant value.&amp;nbsp; That can make sense, if P4 represents a bulk item (e.g. water) with other parameters being much smaller components.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What are describing is a mixture problem.&amp;nbsp; Look under DOE&amp;gt;Classical and you will find options for mixture designs.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 10:04:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419559#M66852</guid>
      <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-09-21T10:04:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DoE with fixed sum volume</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419651#M66862</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;As David indicates you are in the Mixture design area of experimentation. &amp;nbsp;These designs lack some of the common properties of orthogonality due to the factor constraints. For thorough treatise of the mixture design problem, read John Cornell, Experiments with Mixtures. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am a bit confused by your factor description...P1-P3 &amp;amp; P5 are discrete? &amp;nbsp;You indicate they are %, are there a limited number of % available? &amp;nbsp;Usually mixture designs are for a small number of &lt;U&gt;continuous&lt;/U&gt; variables where you are looking at the response surface contours to find best conditions. &amp;nbsp;This, of course, after you have assessed these are indeed significant factors and you thoroughly understand noise. I will say it is a challenge to work with 5 mixture factors...your measurements systems will have to be very precise with effective resolution.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 14:48:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-09-21T14:48:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: DoE with fixed sum volume</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419919#M66882</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your response.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To answer your doubt, yes, P1-P3 and P5 are fixed set of numbers, for example P5 will have only three values: 100, 200 and 300 and same is the case for P1-P3...(they are not ranges of numbers, rather discrete two values). P4 is used for volume make up (but it is not water, it is a chemical / reactive substance) and has larger volume / numbers than P1-P3 has and P4 has effect on Y (the outcome/response).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:15:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/DoE-with-fixed-sum-volume/m-p/419919#M66882</guid>
      <dc:creator>SIBH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-09-22T06:15:29Z</dc:date>
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