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How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

bio_grad — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 03:07:49 GMT

For visual enhancement purposes I would like to put borders around each bar to make them stand out, though I cannot figure out if it's possible to do in JMP. This is do-able in Excel, but making charts of summarized data is a pain to make each time.

Here is how it looks in JMP followed by what I am trying to achieve:

Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

Martin — Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:45:23 GMT

I too would love an answer to this question.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

AW — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:32:01 GMT

As would I.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

txnelson — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:52:10 GMT

The only way I could figure out to do this, was to specify the Bar chart twice to Graph Builder, and then change the top one to have an empty fill pattern and to change the color of the top one to black. It then shows only the outline of the bar.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

SD62 — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:44:01 GMT

Is tat really the only way? There must be an easier approach??

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

txnelson — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:02:53 GMT

I believe it is the best and easiest way to do it.
You can always use the Graphic Primitives' available in JMP and use them to create a bar chart, however, you have to calculate the size of the bars, and position them, etc.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

SD62 — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:24:08 GMT

Thank you for the feedback. I wish JMP was easier to use :)

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

txnelson — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:12:25 GMT

Past experiences have shown, that JMP has a bit of a learning curve. Changing paradigms from Excel to JMP, or from Minitab, etc. to JMP takes a little retraining, but I am sure you will find as thousands and thousands of JMP users found, that JMP really becomes a very easy and efficient tool for data exploration and analysis.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

Mark_Bailey — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:56:08 GMT

Many visualization experts, such as Edward Tufte and Stephen Few, consider a bar outline as you requested to be "chart junk." It adds no additional information to the chart (fact) and so, it is superfluous (opinion).

JMP favors accuracy over impact for statistical discovery, but you can request it in the JMP Wish List area of the JMP Community. In fact, there is already a wish for outlines when bars use a pattern instead of a color.

Re: How to add border around bars in Graph Builder bar chart?

SD62 — Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:26:32 GMT

It may appear superfluous but it is useful in my application. If it is already in the JMP wish list, I am not the only one who needs it. Unfortunately, I am not a programmer but I suppose it should be an easy update? I have been using GraphPad Prism and can easily do it. I was giving JMP a try but this may not be the right software for me. Thank you for the quick feedback though: really appreciated.