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Is it possible to have one factor which is not significant in a response surface model but the quadratic term for the same factor is?

Michael_Mart — Thu, 08 Jun 2023 21:01:28 GMT

I'm trying to model one of my responses in JMP which has been evaluated using a DoE CCD design. In the DoE model, I have one factor which is not significant to the model around this response (p >0.05) but the quadratic term is significant (p<0.05). According to the Effect Hereditary Principle, in order for an interaction to be significant, at least one of its parent factors should be significant. Does this also apply for quadratic terms? How should this be interpreted?

Re: Is it possible to have one factor which is not significant in a response surface model but the quadratic term for the same factor is?

P_Bartell — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:09:38 GMT

Effect heredity is a guideline/concept/principle, not a hard and fast rule. It's a principle to help guide us in how we may choose to characterize systems with linear in the parameters models. So it's entirely possible for a main effect to not be significant but a quadratic effect for the same factor is significant. Here's a simulated example. Note the perfectly symmetric parabola for X1. And the resultant Fit Model analysis showing only the X1*X1 term is significant. And without being entirely pedantic, when we use the word 'factor' we generally mean the physical 'thing' that is in a system. When we talk about 'effects' we talk about various ways in which a factor can be included in a linear/nonlinear for that matter model. So to say a 'factor' is NOT significant, I would interpret that as ALL the effects including that factor are not significant. But to say an 'effect' is not significant means a specific single term in the model is not significant. So in the situation below, the X1 factor is 'active', but the X1 main effect is not significant, but the X1*X1 effect is significant.

Re: Is it possible to have one factor which is not significant in a response surface model but the quadratic term for the same factor is?

Mark_Bailey — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:43:31 GMT

Adding to @P_Bartell, this situation brings up the topic of 'model hierarchy.' The presence of the squared term causes a hierarchy. X is present in X*X. As such, it is strongly recommended that you maintain the hierarchy. That is to say, If the X*X term is significant but the X term is not significant, keep both terms in the model.

JMP checks for such cases and warns you if removing a term will affect the hierarchy. JMP will allow you to proceed, but it is not recommended.

Re: Is it possible to have one factor which is not significant in a response surface model but the quadratic term for the same factor is?

statman — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:43:35 GMT

Mark is correct as this is effect hierarchy. Think of it this way, if you are going to "model" the curvature of the factor (X*X) then you will certainly need to manage X. Whether it contributes to the prediction precision or not is really of little consequence.