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    <title>topic Wilcoxon Sign Ranked Test - JMP OUT PUT in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312503#M56529</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So I am doing Wilcoxon Sign Ranked test and I am not understanding what JMP is doing for where it says test statistic. I understand its using the "Pratt method" and this is the formula&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;S = R+ - 1/4[(N(N+1)-do(do+1)]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but could you expand on this a little further as I am not getting the same thing as what JMP is gettting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;where my values are :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;R+ is 1527,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;my sample has 76 pairs,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and 11 0's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I try plugging my values into that formula and I get is but JMP is returning 581 for S. Please help me I am going nuts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;S = 581 does not = 1527-1/4[76(76+1)-11(11+1)]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I should mention when adding these in the matched pair test under analyzed I am putting dad height first then height (which is the opposite of how I want it to read out). Data attached&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rachel&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5358"&gt;@Mark_Bailey&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:39:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>rlw268</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-10T20:39:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Wilcoxon Sign Ranked Test - JMP OUT PUT</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312503#M56529</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So I am doing Wilcoxon Sign Ranked test and I am not understanding what JMP is doing for where it says test statistic. I understand its using the "Pratt method" and this is the formula&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;S = R+ - 1/4[(N(N+1)-do(do+1)]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but could you expand on this a little further as I am not getting the same thing as what JMP is gettting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;where my values are :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;R+ is 1527,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;my sample has 76 pairs,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and 11 0's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I try plugging my values into that formula and I get is but JMP is returning 581 for S. Please help me I am going nuts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;S = 581 does not = 1527-1/4[76(76+1)-11(11+1)]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I should mention when adding these in the matched pair test under analyzed I am putting dad height first then height (which is the opposite of how I want it to read out). Data attached&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rachel&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5358"&gt;@Mark_Bailey&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:39:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312503#M56529</guid>
      <dc:creator>rlw268</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-10T20:39:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wilcoxon Sign Ranked Test - JMP OUT PUT</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312642#M56534</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I've done the calculations in a JMP table (attached).&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Following the calculation steps in the online documentation:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.2/index.shtml#page/jmp/wilcoxon-signed-rank-test.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.2/index.shtml#page/jmp/wilcoxon-signed-rank-test.shtml&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I get S = -581 (same as JMP)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And for R+ I get 849; plug that into the R+ formula using d0=11, you also arrive at -581.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2020 21:34:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312642#M56534</guid>
      <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-09-24T21:34:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wilcoxon Sign Ranked Test - JMP OUT PUT</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312707#M56540</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4536"&gt;@David_Burnham&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wow thank you so much for putting that together for me and showing me!. I greatly appreciate this!!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I finally saw where I was going wrong, my error was with R+!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Curious if you could answer another question for me?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can you explain to me what the highlighted part of the the variance formula is? I can not wrap my head around the term di.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Rachel&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:25:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312707#M56540</guid>
      <dc:creator>rlw268</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-09-25T01:25:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Wilcoxon Sign Ranked Test - JMP OUT PUT</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312896#M56550</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;The principle is that the presence of ties will have the effect of reducing the variance, so an adjustment is required by an amount that is a function of the proportions of the observations that are tied at each tie point. However, I'm not familiar with the details of the calculation or the theoretical basis of it.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:45:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Wilcoxon-Sign-Ranked-Test-JMP-OUT-PUT/m-p/312896#M56550</guid>
      <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-09-25T08:45:28Z</dc:date>
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