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    <title>topic Re: Standard betas for logistic regression in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reply!&amp;nbsp; So my model has a mix of predictors that are continuous and a couple that are binary.&amp;nbsp; Do I standardize all the predictor variables in the model?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks again:)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>fishguy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-07-28T14:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Standard betas for logistic regression</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282297#M54620</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would like to compare strength of effect in my logistic regression model.&amp;nbsp; In least squares models I can bring up and compare standardized beta coefficients.&amp;nbsp; Can this be done with logistic models?&amp;nbsp; (I don't see the option in "columns" option).&amp;nbsp; Or, is there another method to compare the strength of effect of each of my terms in the model?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fishguy&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 20:38:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>fishguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-10T20:38:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard betas for logistic regression</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282436#M54649</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This command in Fit Least Squares is convenient, but all it is doing is centering and scaling the continuous predictors. You can accomplish the same thing yourself with a column formula. It is easy to do:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Select the predictor columns in the data table.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Right-click the header for one of them.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Select New Column Formula &amp;gt; Distributional &amp;gt; Standardize.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now use these columns in place of the original columns when you set up your modeling in Fit Model dialog. Using the Fitness data table in the sample data folder, I fit a model Oxy versus Age through MaxPulse. I created the standardized version of the predictors and used them for the linear predictor of a second fit. I exported the Parameter Estimates as a data table for each and concatenated them so I could examine them together. Here are the results:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="parm est.JPG" style="width: 540px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/25771i9BF079AEB444504D/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="parm est.JPG" alt="parm est.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Notice that the p-values are identical between the two fits. Then I plotted the estimates, where the importance is clearer:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="bar chart.JPG" style="width: 646px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/25772iD722B3D642B0D706/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="bar chart.JPG" alt="bar chart.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Only Runtime seemed to be important when using the original predictors. Runtime, RunPulse, and MaxPulse seem to be important when using the standardized predictors.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Both models produce identical predictions, of course.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Another technique is built into the Prediction Profiler that might be helpful for your purpose: &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/assess-variable-importance.shtml#" target="_self"&gt;Variable Importance&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:07:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282436#M54649</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-28T13:07:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard betas for logistic regression</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282485#M54661</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reply!&amp;nbsp; So my model has a mix of predictors that are continuous and a couple that are binary.&amp;nbsp; Do I standardize all the predictor variables in the model?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks again:)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282485#M54661</guid>
      <dc:creator>fishguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-28T14:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard betas for logistic regression</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282504#M54666</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Categorical variables are always coded so no need. See help &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.2/#page/jmp/nominal-factors.shtml" target="_self"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; and &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.2/#page/jmp/ordinal-factors.shtml" target="_self"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;for more information.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:26:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282504#M54666</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-28T15:26:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Standard betas for logistic regression</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282506#M54667</link>
      <description>Great, thanks!&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:27:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Standard-betas-for-logistic-regression/m-p/282506#M54667</guid>
      <dc:creator>fishguy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-07-28T15:27:55Z</dc:date>
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