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    <title>topic Re: Interpreting Mixed Model in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Interpreting-Mixed-Model/m-p/273111#M53114</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;1. From the red triangle, Save columns, save prediction formula.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;expression is in a new column&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/the-fit-mixed-report.shtml#" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/the-fit-mixed-report.shtml#&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't see a residuals table in the attached report, however&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;Marginal Model Inference:&amp;nbsp;Produces plots based on marginal predicted values and marginal residuals. These plots display the variation due to random effects. &amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/marginal-model-inference.shtml#ww1282958" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/marginal-model-inference.shtml#ww1282958&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;Conditional Model Inference:&amp;nbsp;Produces plots based on conditional predicted values and conditional residuals. These plots display the variation that remains, once random effects are accounted for.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/conditional-model-inference.shtml#ww1171576" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/conditional-model-inference.shtml#ww1171576&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;3. I'm not familiar with fish acceleration. Either a log or some sort of Box-Cox transform seems like it might be reasonable.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:48:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Byron_JMP</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-06-16T19:48:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Interpreting Mixed Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Interpreting-Mixed-Model/m-p/272943#M53091</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Several questions regarding linear mixed models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) In the "Fit Mixed" personality is there a way to get the prediction expression (Y=Bx+Zu+E), I can get it from other model personalities but can't find it in the "Fit Mixed" personality&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) I am looking at swimming performance in fish, I have two continuous fixed effects and their interaction fit against a continuous response with individual and all its interactions selected as random effects (in total 3 fixed effects:2independent and 1 interaction and 4 random effects)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2a) when I am interpreting the random variance components is the residual in that table the variance left to be explained by the fixed effects?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2b) If I am getting significant random variance components and significant fixed effects are my fixed effects significant BECAUSE of the random covariance&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; or INSPITE of the random covariance?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3) I am working with acceleration which appears to be non-linear and my model fits better when it is log transformed. Am I justified in transforming only acceleration and not my other continuous variables (which appear to be normal or nearly normal) or should I be transforming them all.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are a couple of screen grabs&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Stephen2020_0-1592308261731.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/24615iE842AA10D0DE260A/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Stephen2020_0-1592308261731.png" alt="Stephen2020_0-1592308261731.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Stephen2020_1-1592308312397.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/24616i5CEAC9156C4880FA/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Stephen2020_1-1592308312397.png" alt="Stephen2020_1-1592308312397.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Stephen2020_2-1592308383498.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/24617i00E62FD55F29F9C9/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Stephen2020_2-1592308383498.png" alt="Stephen2020_2-1592308383498.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Stephen2020_3-1592308404348.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/24618iC5BC0A15574123F0/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Stephen2020_3-1592308404348.png" alt="Stephen2020_3-1592308404348.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 00:17:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Interpreting-Mixed-Model/m-p/272943#M53091</guid>
      <dc:creator>Stephen2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-09T00:17:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Interpreting Mixed Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Interpreting-Mixed-Model/m-p/273111#M53114</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;1. From the red triangle, Save columns, save prediction formula.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;expression is in a new column&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/the-fit-mixed-report.shtml#" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/the-fit-mixed-report.shtml#&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't see a residuals table in the attached report, however&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;Marginal Model Inference:&amp;nbsp;Produces plots based on marginal predicted values and marginal residuals. These plots display the variation due to random effects. &amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/marginal-model-inference.shtml#ww1282958" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/marginal-model-inference.shtml#ww1282958&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;Conditional Model Inference:&amp;nbsp;Produces plots based on conditional predicted values and conditional residuals. These plots display the variation that remains, once random effects are accounted for.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/conditional-model-inference.shtml#ww1171576" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/15.1/#page/jmp/conditional-model-inference.shtml#ww1171576&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;3. I'm not familiar with fish acceleration. Either a log or some sort of Box-Cox transform seems like it might be reasonable.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class="defTerm"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:48:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Interpreting-Mixed-Model/m-p/273111#M53114</guid>
      <dc:creator>Byron_JMP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-16T19:48:53Z</dc:date>
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