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    <title>topic Re: % Gauge R&amp;amp;R or Precision-to-Tolerance ratio in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/269245#M52421</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;And to add to Byron's suggestion, get Wheeler and Lyday's book Evaluating the Measurement Process.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:13:38 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-06-15T14:13:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>% Gauge R&amp;R or Precision-to-Tolerance ratio</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/178596#M40199</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When reporting the Gauge R&amp;amp;R in version 13.1.0 the below report is available. When I open help, the below does not specify which is the % Gauge R&amp;amp;R number for the guidelines.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class="Figure_Title"&gt;Example of the Gauge R&amp;amp;R Report&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="ww_skin_page_overflow"&gt;&lt;DIV class="figureContainer"&gt;&lt;IMG width="568" height="365" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="Note"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="Note" style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Note: &lt;/SPAN&gt;To generate the reduced Gauge R&amp;amp;R report, select &lt;SPAN class="command" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;File &amp;gt; Preferences &amp;gt; Platforms &amp;gt; Variability Chart&lt;/SPAN&gt; &amp;gt; &lt;SPAN class="command" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reduced Gauge RR Report&lt;/SPAN&gt;.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;In this example, the values in the Variation column are the square roots of sums of variance components scaled by the value of &lt;SPAN class="EquationVariables" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: 400;"&gt;k&lt;/SPAN&gt; (6 in this example).&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;&lt;A title="Gauge RR Option" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Acceptable Percent Measurement Variation&lt;/A&gt; shows guidelines for measurement variation, as suggested by Barrentine (1991).&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="tableContainer"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="ww_skin_page_overflow"&gt;Acceptable Percent Measurement Variation&amp;nbsp; &lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;&amp;lt; 10%&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;excellent&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;11% to 20%&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;adequate&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;21% to 30%&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;marginally acceptable&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;&amp;gt; 30%&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;DIV class="body"&gt;unacceptable&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="bodyKeepWithNext"&gt;Note the following:&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="WebWorks_Number" style="display: inline-block; text-indent: 0px; white-space: nowrap; width: 24px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline; text-indent: 0px; white-space: nowrap; width: auto; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"&gt;• &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;If you have provided a &lt;SPAN class="command" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Tolerance Interval&lt;/SPAN&gt; in the Enter/Verify Gauge R&amp;amp;R Specifications window, a &lt;SPAN class="colName" style="color: #cc6600; font-family: &amp;amp;quot; courier new&amp;amp;quot;,mono; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400;"&gt;% of Tolerance&lt;/SPAN&gt; column appears in the Gauge R&amp;amp;R report. This column is computed as 100*(Variation/Tolerance). Also, a &lt;SPAN class="colName" style="color: #cc6600; font-family: &amp;amp;quot; courier new&amp;amp;quot;,mono; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400;"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="Search_Result_Highlight" style="background-color: #ffff00;"&gt;Precision-to-Tolerance&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class="Search_Result_Highlight" style="background-color: #ffff00;"&gt;ratio&lt;/SPAN&gt; appears at the bottom of the report. This &lt;SPAN class="Search_Result_Highlight" style="background-color: #ffff00;"&gt;ratio&lt;/SPAN&gt; represents the proportion of the tolerance or capability interval that is lost due to gauge variability.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="WebWorks_Number" style="display: inline-block; text-indent: 0px; white-space: nowrap; width: 24px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline; text-indent: 0px; white-space: nowrap; width: auto; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"&gt;• &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;If you have provided a &lt;SPAN class="command" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Historical Sigma&lt;/SPAN&gt; in the Enter/Verify Gauge R&amp;amp;R Specifications window, a &lt;SPAN class="colName" style="color: #cc6600; font-family: &amp;amp;quot; courier new&amp;amp;quot;,mono; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400;"&gt;% Process&lt;/SPAN&gt; column appears in the Gauge R&amp;amp;R report. This column is defined as follows: 100*(Variation/(K*Historical Sigma)).&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&lt;SPAN class="WebWorks_Number" style="display: inline-block; text-indent: 0px; white-space: nowrap; width: 24px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="display: inline; text-indent: 0px; white-space: nowrap; width: auto; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;"&gt;• &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;The Number of Distinct Categories (NDC) is defined as (1.41*(PV/RR)), rounded down to the nearest integer.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;Below are my results. &amp;nbsp; If I use the 3.4% Gauge R&amp;amp;R then I believe my MSA is Excellant.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;But if I look at the .81 Precision to Tolerance Ratio my MSA is not good as I would read this as 81%.&amp;nbsp; Which is the correct number to use for the above guidelines?&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gauge R&amp;amp;R (copied as Text)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Measurement Source Variation (6*StdDev) % of Tolerance which is 6*sqrt of&lt;BR /&gt;Repeatability (EV) 0.0779517 77.95 Equipment Variation V(Within)&lt;BR /&gt;Reproducibility (AV) 0.0221650 22.17 Appraiser Variation V(Technician)&lt;BR /&gt;Technician 0.0221650 22.17 V(Technician)&lt;BR /&gt;Gauge R&amp;amp;R (RR) 0.0810417 81.04 Measurement Variation V(Within) + V(Technician)&lt;BR /&gt;Part Variation (PV) 2.3527216 2352.7 Part Variation V(Part SN)&lt;BR /&gt;Total Variation (TV) 2.3541170 2354.1 Total Variation V(Within) + V(Technician) + V(Part SN)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;6 k&lt;BR /&gt;3.44255 % Gauge R&amp;amp;R = 100*(RR/TV)&lt;BR /&gt;0.03445 Precision to Part Variation = RR/PV&lt;BR /&gt;40 Number of Distinct Categories = 1.41(PV/RR)&lt;BR /&gt;0.1 Tolerance = USL-LSL&lt;BR /&gt;0.81042 Precision/Tolerance Ratio = RR/(USL-LSL)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Using last column 'Part SN' for Part.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Variance Components for Gauge R&amp;amp;R&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Component Var Component % of Total&lt;BR /&gt;Gauge R&amp;amp;R 0.00018244 0.12&lt;BR /&gt;Repeatability 0.00016879 0.11&lt;BR /&gt;Reproducibility 0.00001365 0.0089&lt;BR /&gt;Part-to-Part 0.15375831 99.88 +++++++++&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV class="N1bullet"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 02:28:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/178596#M40199</guid>
      <dc:creator>caroljackson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-28T02:28:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: % Gauge R&amp;R or Precision-to-Tolerance ratio</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/269189#M52409</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/5088"&gt;@caroljackson&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would like too introduce you to my friend Donald Wheeler. (I think of him as a friend, he likely has not idea who I am).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I could restate the problem as he puts it, or just post the paper here:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.spcpress.com/pdf/DJW189.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://www.spcpress.com/pdf/DJW189.pdf&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The proportions, following the AIAG procedure, which JMP follows exactly, aren't really proportions. So it's possible to have both good, marginal and acceptable results simultaneously. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I highly recommend reading the paper in the link; however, you can't un-know the problem after you understand it, so read it at the peril of your bliss.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Byron&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:49:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/269189#M52409</guid>
      <dc:creator>Byron_JMP</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-15T13:49:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: % Gauge R&amp;R or Precision-to-Tolerance ratio</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/269245#M52421</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;And to add to Byron's suggestion, get Wheeler and Lyday's book Evaluating the Measurement Process.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:13:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Gauge-R-amp-R-or-Precision-to-Tolerance-ratio/m-p/269245#M52421</guid>
      <dc:creator>statman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-06-15T14:13:38Z</dc:date>
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