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    <title>topic Analysis of Means - Transformed Ranks in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello together,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found a function in JMP and was wondering when to apply the Transformed Ranks option within the Analysis of Means menu. I read the reference from Nelson et. al, provided by JMP, but I am still not quite sure if I apply it properly. Unfortunetaly, I do not really find any other references which are useful. If I compare groups (measurements instruments with same sample set) with non-normal distributed residuals and are not able to transform the data to a normal distribution it seems that this is the only analysis I can run in JMP to compare the Mean. For me personally the approach to assign ranks makes sence in my example.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To my example:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to report if groups (measurement instruments) match to the overall mean and afterwards conduct a wilcoxon test&amp;nbsp; fo each group to the overall mean. The graphical output matches with the non-parametric test. If limits are exceeded the p-value is &amp;lt;0.05.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can I use this test to compare measurements instruments with the same sample set and derive a statement about statistical matching to the overall mean? I already conducted technical matching analysis using Bias / Tolerance ratio but was wondering if this could be added to my analysis as an add-on.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When would you use this JMP option?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for any ideas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Martin&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2020 15:30:32 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Martin91</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-02-05T15:30:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Analysis of Means - Transformed Ranks</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Analysis-of-Means-Transformed-Ranks/m-p/246033#M48342</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello together,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I found a function in JMP and was wondering when to apply the Transformed Ranks option within the Analysis of Means menu. I read the reference from Nelson et. al, provided by JMP, but I am still not quite sure if I apply it properly. Unfortunetaly, I do not really find any other references which are useful. If I compare groups (measurements instruments with same sample set) with non-normal distributed residuals and are not able to transform the data to a normal distribution it seems that this is the only analysis I can run in JMP to compare the Mean. For me personally the approach to assign ranks makes sence in my example.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To my example:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to report if groups (measurement instruments) match to the overall mean and afterwards conduct a wilcoxon test&amp;nbsp; fo each group to the overall mean. The graphical output matches with the non-parametric test. If limits are exceeded the p-value is &amp;lt;0.05.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can I use this test to compare measurements instruments with the same sample set and derive a statement about statistical matching to the overall mean? I already conducted technical matching analysis using Bias / Tolerance ratio but was wondering if this could be added to my analysis as an add-on.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When would you use this JMP option?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for any ideas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Martin&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2020 15:30:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Martin91</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-05T15:30:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Analysis of Means - Transformed Ranks</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Analysis-of-Means-Transformed-Ranks/m-p/246040#M48343</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can you share a plot of the residuals that exhibit the non-normal distribution? A histogram and a normal quantile plot would help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What have your tried in order to transform the data to normal?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;How many replicate measurements do you observe? How many items are in your sample? How many instruments are included?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You are trying to show that the mean of the measurements is close to the standard value across the items and intruments? Lack of significance in a test for a difference is not the proper analysis. You might want to use an equivalence test instead.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Since the question is about the measurements, please see Help &amp;gt; Books &amp;gt; Quality and Process &amp;gt; chapters about Measurement System Analysis and Variability Chart might be helpful.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2020 16:23:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-02-05T16:23:32Z</dc:date>
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