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    <title>topic Re: What does it mean if both my predicted plot P value and my Prob &amp;gt; F are both signficant? in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219480#M43912</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;A model can be significant and explain a lot of variability and still exhibit lack of fit. For example, the model may be missing an important term, as shown in the attached simple example.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Example.PNG" style="width: 231px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/18489i5AE1502CD3670552/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Example.PNG" alt="Example.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A significant lack of fit usually indicates that the model form is not correct and usually indicates that there is a curvilinear relationship. Residual plots are the best and easiest tool to use to try and determine why there is a lack of fit. A good residual plot will show random scatter. Any pattern will indicate a systematic problem with your chosen model. For my simple example, here is a residual plot (there is more than one residual plot, so look at all of them to help determine the problem with your model).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Resid.PNG" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/18490i7CC80EBCF435DD07/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Resid.PNG" alt="Resid.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is an obvious pattern here indicating that I need a quadratic term in the model to estimate the curvature. I THINK this is a problem with your model as well, but the residual plots should help you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Dan_Obermiller</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-07-31T19:13:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What does it mean if both my predicted plot P value and my Prob &gt; F are both signficant?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219460#M43907</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm running datasets where I'm getting really nice RMSE (0.86-0.90) and P value &amp;lt; 0.0001 for my predicted plots, but my Prob &amp;gt; F is still signficant for Lack of Fit. What does this mean? Example pasted below.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Screen Shot 2019-07-31 at 11.01.51 AM.png" style="width: 566px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/18500i11EDAA80B6EA26E3/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="Screen Shot 2019-07-31 at 11.01.51 AM.png" alt="Screen Shot 2019-07-31 at 11.01.51 AM.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:22:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219460#M43907</guid>
      <dc:creator>JBeierle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-08-01T13:22:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What does it mean if both my predicted plot P value and my Prob &gt; F are both signficant?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219472#M43908</link>
      <description>*sorry for the typo* - Rsq are really nice. NOT RMSE.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 18:36:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219472#M43908</guid>
      <dc:creator>JBeierle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-31T18:36:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What does it mean if both my predicted plot P value and my Prob &gt; F are both signficant?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219480#M43912</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A model can be significant and explain a lot of variability and still exhibit lack of fit. For example, the model may be missing an important term, as shown in the attached simple example.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Example.PNG" style="width: 231px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/18489i5AE1502CD3670552/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Example.PNG" alt="Example.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A significant lack of fit usually indicates that the model form is not correct and usually indicates that there is a curvilinear relationship. Residual plots are the best and easiest tool to use to try and determine why there is a lack of fit. A good residual plot will show random scatter. Any pattern will indicate a systematic problem with your chosen model. For my simple example, here is a residual plot (there is more than one residual plot, so look at all of them to help determine the problem with your model).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Resid.PNG" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/18490i7CC80EBCF435DD07/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Resid.PNG" alt="Resid.PNG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is an obvious pattern here indicating that I need a quadratic term in the model to estimate the curvature. I THINK this is a problem with your model as well, but the residual plots should help you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:13:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/What-does-it-mean-if-both-my-predicted-plot-P-value-and-my-Prob/m-p/219480#M43912</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dan_Obermiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-07-31T19:13:43Z</dc:date>
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