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    <title>topic Firth-bias adjusted estimates in Discussions</title>
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    <description>I am running some choice models in JMP. I am using the one-table method rather than the method with the separate profile, response, and subject tables. When I run my model with the Firth bias adjusted estimates box checked, the model fails with the note "cannot calculate objective at starting value." When I uncheck the Firth box, the model runs and I get output that appears reasonable. Couple questions:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1) Is it essential to use the Firth bias adjusted estimates?&lt;BR /&gt;2) Is there something that I could do to make the Firth bias adjusted estimates run? &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am wondering if it might be worth trying to run the model with the profile data separated from the response and subject data. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any advice would be appreciated. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks.</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:12:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Firth-bias adjusted estimates</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Firth-bias-adjusted-estimates/m-p/3129#M3129</link>
      <description>I am running some choice models in JMP. I am using the one-table method rather than the method with the separate profile, response, and subject tables. When I run my model with the Firth bias adjusted estimates box checked, the model fails with the note "cannot calculate objective at starting value." When I uncheck the Firth box, the model runs and I get output that appears reasonable. Couple questions:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;1) Is it essential to use the Firth bias adjusted estimates?&lt;BR /&gt;2) Is there something that I could do to make the Firth bias adjusted estimates run? &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I am wondering if it might be worth trying to run the model with the profile data separated from the response and subject data. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Any advice would be appreciated. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thanks.</description>
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