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    <title>topic ANOVA assumption test in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40606#M23765</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi JMP community!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I run into a question when doing my data anlysis project. I want to test that whether differnt types of products are statistically different in prices. I use ANOVA to do the testing. Before that, I created a boxplot of prices for differnt types of products. I'm wondering whether I should exclude outliers indicated by the boxplot before doing ANOVA analysis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It would be really helpful if you can provide me some insights. Thank you so much!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:14:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-06-18T15:14:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40606#M23765</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi JMP community!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I run into a question when doing my data anlysis project. I want to test that whether differnt types of products are statistically different in prices. I use ANOVA to do the testing. Before that, I created a boxplot of prices for differnt types of products. I'm wondering whether I should exclude outliers indicated by the boxplot before doing ANOVA analysis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It would be really helpful if you can provide me some insights. Thank you so much!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:14:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40606#M23765</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-18T15:14:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40607#M23766</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In my opinion, outliers should not be eliminated, unless there is a causal effect unrelated to the analysis, which made the values what they ended up having. &amp;nbsp;If non can be found, then you should make the assumption the values are part of your valid distribution. &amp;nbsp;But that leads us to the next issue, ANOVA assumes the data are normally distributed. &amp;nbsp;With skewed data(outliers may have caused such), the data may not be normal in form. &amp;nbsp;When this happens, you should look to normalize the data through transformation. &amp;nbsp;The Distribution Platform in JMP can help you with the determination of whether or not the data are normal and if not, it may be able to provide you with a transformation you can use to convert to normal for the analysis.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:32:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40607#M23766</guid>
      <dc:creator>txnelson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-18T15:32:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40608#M23767</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much Jim! This helps a lot!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 15:36:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40608#M23767</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-18T15:36:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40611#M23770</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In addition to Jim's insight, you also want to check the assumption that the &lt;EM&gt;variance is constant&lt;/EM&gt; across the groups because&amp;nbsp;the test models variance&amp;nbsp;this way and pools the estimates&amp;nbsp;across the groups. So be sure to also click the red triangle next to Oneway and select &lt;STRONG&gt;Unequal Variances&lt;/STRONG&gt; for this check of another important assumption.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 21:21:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40611#M23770</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-18T21:21:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40612#M23771</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I really like the &lt;STRONG&gt;Normal Quantile Plot&lt;/STRONG&gt; option in &lt;STRONG&gt;Oneway&lt;/STRONG&gt;. This plot overlays the normal distribution of each group in the same plot. The y-intercept is the mean and the slope is the standard deviation. You can check ANOVA assumptions (only population difference is the mean (vertical&amp;nbsp;displacement of lines), populations&amp;nbsp;have same variance (&lt;SPAN&gt;lines are parallel&lt;/SPAN&gt;), and check for outliers) all at the same time.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2017 21:26:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40612#M23771</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-18T21:26:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40614#M23773</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for your reply!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I understand that I need to check whether dependent vairable is normally distributed and variance is equal. I tried the normal quantile and unequal variances in JMP. I also attached the result in this post. However, it seems that my data are not normally distributed and have unequal variances. I wonder how to deal with unequal variances.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:26:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40614#M23773</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-19T02:26:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ANOVA assumption test</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40623#M23781</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You might try transforming the response. Heavily skewed data often benefits from the natural logarithm function. Alternatively, analyze the data with Fit Least Squares to determine the best power transformation:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Select &lt;STRONG&gt;Analyze&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Fit Model&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Select &lt;STRONG&gt;Openbid&lt;/STRONG&gt; and click &lt;STRONG&gt;Y&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Select &lt;STRONG&gt;Item&lt;/STRONG&gt; and click&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Add&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Click &lt;STRONG&gt;Run&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Click the red triangle next to Response and select &lt;STRONG&gt;Factor Profiling&lt;/STRONG&gt; &amp;gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;Box Cox Y Transformation&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Examine the plot of SSE versus lambda. If no transformation is helpful, the minimum SSE should be found near lambda = 1. Lambda = 0 is essentially the same as a log transformation. Click the red triangle next to Box Cox and select &lt;STRONG&gt;Save Best&lt;/STRONG&gt;. Now repeat your analysis using &lt;STRONG&gt;Openbid X&lt;/STRONG&gt; as the response.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;See if this change helps meet the assumptions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2017 11:10:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/ANOVA-assumption-test/m-p/40623#M23781</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark_Bailey</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-06-19T11:10:26Z</dc:date>
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