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    <title>topic Comparing multiple means using one way ANOVA when variances are unequal in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I have 3 data sets &amp;nbsp;and performed One way ANOVA to see if means &amp;nbsp;between group are different. The ANOVA for the P-value is 0.13&amp;nbsp;and shows &amp;nbsp;there is no significant difference between means, but the four test for equal variance &amp;nbsp;test O'Brein, Brown-Forsyhe Levene and Barrlett have &amp;nbsp; p-value equal to or less than 0.00723. This indicates variances are not equal. The Welch's ANOVA test also has a low p-value 0.0123. Since the variance are unequal is the&amp;nbsp;Welch's Test is the appropriate test for showing at least one the group &amp;nbsp;means is different from the others since variances are unequal? I believe the Tukey-Kramer test would have been the appropriate if varainace are equal. Is there an eqaulivalent test if variances are unequal?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 13:37:10 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>lconley20</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-12-07T13:37:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Comparing multiple means using one way ANOVA when variances are unequal</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Comparing-multiple-means-using-one-way-ANOVA-when-variances-are/m-p/33166#M19782</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have 3 data sets &amp;nbsp;and performed One way ANOVA to see if means &amp;nbsp;between group are different. The ANOVA for the P-value is 0.13&amp;nbsp;and shows &amp;nbsp;there is no significant difference between means, but the four test for equal variance &amp;nbsp;test O'Brein, Brown-Forsyhe Levene and Barrlett have &amp;nbsp; p-value equal to or less than 0.00723. This indicates variances are not equal. The Welch's ANOVA test also has a low p-value 0.0123. Since the variance are unequal is the&amp;nbsp;Welch's Test is the appropriate test for showing at least one the group &amp;nbsp;means is different from the others since variances are unequal? I believe the Tukey-Kramer test would have been the appropriate if varainace are equal. Is there an eqaulivalent test if variances are unequal?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 13:37:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>lconley20</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-12-07T13:37:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Comparing multiple means using one way ANOVA when variances are unequal</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Comparing-multiple-means-using-one-way-ANOVA-when-variances-are/m-p/33172#M19788</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;A few thoughts for you:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;First off, try to avoid using p values as a 'cliff' indicating 'signficance' but more as a measure of probability of getting a test statistic at least as large due solely to chance. Additionally, what do your eyes tell you about group means when looking at the Fit Y by X scatter plot? And most importantly can domain expertise help inform your ultimate decision? What are the risks (practical not statistical) for making a wrong decision regarding groups? These should help guide your ultimate decision AT least as much as a p value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lastly, if you are bound and determined to use something that produces p values or their brethren in a multiple comparison mode, maybe take a look at the nonparametric multiple comparison tests? These are offered as a hot spot option from the Fit Y by X platform report under Nonparametric -&amp;gt; Nonparametric multiple comparisons.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 14:22:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Peter_Bartell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-12-07T14:22:09Z</dc:date>
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