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    <title>topic Re: &amp;quot;Blue Line&amp;quot; Significance Test in Effect Estimates in Fit Model in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;This is just my personal interpretation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The table is showing p-values but also LogWorth values. &amp;nbsp;Personally I would use these in difference scenarios:-&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I'm doing traditional statistical modelling (lets say modelling DOE data) then I would be interested in p-values. &amp;nbsp;Then I would expect the blue line to be to 0.05 threshold. &amp;nbsp;I would also want the table to use p-value formatting (i.e. colour coded p-values) - something it doesn't do.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I'm dealing with much larger volumes of data and doing predictive modelling then I kind of expect everything to be statistically significant, so LogWorth is more helpful to me in terms of ranking variables. &amp;nbsp;Then a LogWorth threshold is useful to me, maybe 2 or 3 or whatever helps me apply some form of Pareto principle. &amp;nbsp;In this context, the blue line make sense, giving me a threshold of 2 for LogWorth.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So this is what I would like to see:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;An option to format the effect summary &lt;EM&gt;either&lt;/EM&gt; in terms of p-value &lt;EM&gt;or&lt;/EM&gt; LogWorth. &amp;nbsp;In p-value format, I want to see the p-value formatting and a thresold line of 0.05. &amp;nbsp;In LogWorth format I don't really want to see p-values. &amp;nbsp;Just show me LogWorth values and the threshold line. &amp;nbsp;Happy to have it at 2, but give me the choice to change the value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 17:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-11-22T17:03:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>"Blue Line" Significance Test in Effect Estimates in Fit Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29269#M19347</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can anyone explain why blue line in Effect Estimates in Fit Model which (implicitly) signifies significance is set at P = 0.01 rather than P= 0.05. Is this alterable in preferences?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for any advice/guidance/Logic&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:02:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29269#M19347</guid>
      <dc:creator>ar2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-16T21:02:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Blue Line" Significance Test in Effect Estimates in Fit Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29472#M19450</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm not sure which "Blue Line" you're talking about. Do you mean the one in the &lt;A href="http://www.jmp.com/support/help/13/Sorted_Estimates.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Sorted Parameter&amp;nbsp;Estimates&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;report?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="JMPScreenSnapz063.png" style="width: 370px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/4110iAD0FD4E5D8DBA1DC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="JMPScreenSnapz063.png" alt="JMPScreenSnapz063.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;﻿&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I believe those vertical blue lines are set at the .05 significance level.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If that's not the part of the report you're asking about can you post a picture of the lines you're interested in?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 14:17:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29472#M19450</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jeff_Perkinson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-22T14:17:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Blue Line" Significance Test in Effect Estimates in Fit Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29473#M19451</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Jeff - it is the blue line in the Effect Summary report in Fit Model which is set at logworth value equivalent to P= 0.01 (I believe)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 14:38:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29473#M19451</guid>
      <dc:creator>ar2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-22T14:38:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Blue Line" Significance Test in Effect Estimates in Fit Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29486#M19461</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This is just my personal interpretation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The table is showing p-values but also LogWorth values. &amp;nbsp;Personally I would use these in difference scenarios:-&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I'm doing traditional statistical modelling (lets say modelling DOE data) then I would be interested in p-values. &amp;nbsp;Then I would expect the blue line to be to 0.05 threshold. &amp;nbsp;I would also want the table to use p-value formatting (i.e. colour coded p-values) - something it doesn't do.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I'm dealing with much larger volumes of data and doing predictive modelling then I kind of expect everything to be statistically significant, so LogWorth is more helpful to me in terms of ranking variables. &amp;nbsp;Then a LogWorth threshold is useful to me, maybe 2 or 3 or whatever helps me apply some form of Pareto principle. &amp;nbsp;In this context, the blue line make sense, giving me a threshold of 2 for LogWorth.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So this is what I would like to see:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;An option to format the effect summary &lt;EM&gt;either&lt;/EM&gt; in terms of p-value &lt;EM&gt;or&lt;/EM&gt; LogWorth. &amp;nbsp;In p-value format, I want to see the p-value formatting and a thresold line of 0.05. &amp;nbsp;In LogWorth format I don't really want to see p-values. &amp;nbsp;Just show me LogWorth values and the threshold line. &amp;nbsp;Happy to have it at 2, but give me the choice to change the value.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 17:03:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29486#M19461</guid>
      <dc:creator>David_Burnham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-22T17:03:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: "Blue Line" Significance Test in Effect Estimates in Fit Model</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29487#M19462</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;David - really helpful insight. Thank you. And I agree with your proposed format chnage suggestions!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 17:23:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/quot-Blue-Line-quot-Significance-Test-in-Effect-Estimates-in-Fit/m-p/29487#M19462</guid>
      <dc:creator>ar2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-11-22T17:23:42Z</dc:date>
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