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    <title>topic Re: Time Series Analysis Predicting Future Values in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Time-Series-Analysis-Predicting-Future-Values/m-p/17220#M15695</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"&gt;Should choose Time Series of Column as annual or weekly?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;If you want to predict weekly sales you should use weekly data. Besides, there are only four years of data, so it’s not enough to run a time series analysis on yearly data.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-weight: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Should choose Seasonal ARIMA (0, 1, 1)(0, 1, 1)12 or Seasonal ARIMA (0, 1, 1)(0, 1, 1)52?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;If a seasonal pattern occurs in a 52 week cycle, which appears to be shown in your data, yes use 52. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-weight: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Or since the data is to be considered as annual should I choose ARIMA?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;See my comments above.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-weight: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;How to fill up the predicted weekly values into data table?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;First, on the Time Series dialog choose how many # of periods you want to forecast. The default value is 25. In your case, enter 35 (to fill up through 2016) or more.&amp;nbsp; Second, after you’ve built seasonal ARIMA models, click on the red triangle and select either &lt;EM&gt;Save Columns&lt;/EM&gt; or &lt;EM&gt;Save Prediction Formula&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"&gt; to obtain a new JMP table that contains forecast.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #555555;"&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.jmp.com/support/help/Modeling_Reports.shtml#104953"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;http://www.jmp.com/support/help/Modeling_Reports.shtml#104953&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #555555;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;I also suggest that you use a Log &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px;"&gt;transformation&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"&gt; on your sales to ensure &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px;"&gt;positive&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt; predictions, and then use Exp (or 10^) to &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14.6667px;"&gt;backtransform&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3 class="r" style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: normal; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:58:38 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jiancao</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-02-29T17:58:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Time Series Analysis Predicting Future Values</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Time-Series-Analysis-Predicting-Future-Values/m-p/17219#M15694</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Dear All,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Not doing any time series analysis before I've been asked to predict the 2016 Sales as week by week and as final amount. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;The company is a seasonal leisure and tourism (more exactly a resort hotel). &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;The sales end by the 44th week of the year (hotel close date) and starts 73 weeks before the hotel close date. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;To fit the sales data more to a non seasonal annual sales data I only took the last 52 weeks of sales.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;I have a data set of last 4 years sales. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;But I am not aware of how to shape the data like; should choose Time Series of Column as annual or weekly? &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Should choose Seasonal ARIMA (0, 1, 1)(0, 1, 1)12 or Seasonal ARIMA (0, 1, 1)(0, 1, 1)52? &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Or since the data is to be considered as annual should I choose ARIMA?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;How to fill up the predicted weekly values into data table?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Tables are attached and would appreciate any help.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:57:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Time-Series-Analysis-Predicting-Future-Values/m-p/17219#M15694</guid>
      <dc:creator>saitcopuroglu</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-29T11:57:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Time Series Analysis Predicting Future Values</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Time-Series-Analysis-Predicting-Future-Values/m-p/17220#M15695</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"&gt;Should choose Time Series of Column as annual or weekly?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;If you want to predict weekly sales you should use weekly data. Besides, there are only four years of data, so it’s not enough to run a time series analysis on yearly data.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-weight: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Should choose Seasonal ARIMA (0, 1, 1)(0, 1, 1)12 or Seasonal ARIMA (0, 1, 1)(0, 1, 1)52?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;If a seasonal pattern occurs in a 52 week cycle, which appears to be shown in your data, yes use 52. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-weight: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Or since the data is to be considered as annual should I choose ARIMA?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;See my comments above.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-weight: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-style: inherit; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;How to fill up the predicted weekly values into data table?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;First, on the Time Series dialog choose how many # of periods you want to forecast. The default value is 25. In your case, enter 35 (to fill up through 2016) or more.&amp;nbsp; Second, after you’ve built seasonal ARIMA models, click on the red triangle and select either &lt;EM&gt;Save Columns&lt;/EM&gt; or &lt;EM&gt;Save Prediction Formula&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"&gt; to obtain a new JMP table that contains forecast.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #ed7d31; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; background: white;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #555555;"&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.jmp.com/support/help/Modeling_Reports.shtml#104953"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;http://www.jmp.com/support/help/Modeling_Reports.shtml#104953&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #555555;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;I also suggest that you use a Log &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px;"&gt;transformation&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"&gt; on your sales to ensure &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14.6667px;"&gt;positive&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #555555; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt; predictions, and then use Exp (or 10^) to &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 14.6667px;"&gt;backtransform&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3 class="r" style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: normal; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:58:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Time-Series-Analysis-Predicting-Future-Values/m-p/17220#M15695</guid>
      <dc:creator>jiancao</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-29T17:58:38Z</dc:date>
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