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    <title>topic Re: Decision making : which formula is closest to ideal in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Decision-making-which-formula-is-closest-to-ideal/m-p/971681#M110549</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/100103"&gt;@RikkiTikkiTavi&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ranking based on euclidian distances are a good idea. However, when you have competing responses/properties, there might be some tradeoffs to consider, and euclidian distances may "shrink" and hide these tradeoffs.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For this reason, I tend to prefer using Pareto front to detect optimal solutions/formulations based on different emphasis between responses/properties. There is no dedicated JMP platform, but there may be several options to do this:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can create a large candidate dataset thanks to the models fitted to the responses using the&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/simulator.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Simulator&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/simulation-experiment.shtml#ww418246" target="_blank"&gt;Simulation Experiment&lt;/A&gt;) or by creating a large space filling design and adding the responses formula to your table. Then, you can &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/select-rows-in-data-tables.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Select Rows in Data Tables&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;and choose the option &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Select Dominant .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;The resultant set of rows is called the Pareto Frontier.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can try to check if some responses/properties are not correlated with each others, to reduce the output space dimensionality. Then, using &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/principal-components.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Principal Components&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;analysis or non-linear dimension reduction techniques like&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/multivariate-embedding.shtml?_gl=1*1in9fl9*_up*MQ..*_ga*NTc5MjE4MTgwLjE3ODk1NjM4OTM.*_ga_BRNVBEC1RS*czE3ODk1NjM4OTIkbzEkZzAkdDE3ODk1NjM4OTIkajYwJGwwJGgw#" target="_blank"&gt;Multivariate Embedding&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(UMAP), you can reduce your multivariate space in a 2D or 3Dimensional space. Plotting the formula in this reduced responses space really helps visualizing the best candidates and tradeoffs.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can also do the previous options but instead of using directly the responses, you can use the normalized euclidian distances to avoid that a response may have a too strong influence on the others, and check the correlations between the responses distances to optimum. If you can reduce the dimensionality, the visualization is again greatly facilitated:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_0-1789564616228.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/117244i22CC3C47EF6D1D44/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" alt="Victor_G_0-1789564616228.png" title="Victor_G_0-1789564616228.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Hope this other approach and few tricks may help you,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 13:18:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Victor_G</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-09-16T13:18:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Decision making : which formula is closest to ideal</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Decision-making-which-formula-is-closest-to-ideal/m-p/971615#M110547</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a number of shortlisted formulas, all of them are in specifications. Now the challenge is to rank them and identify the best.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Each formula has about a dozen properties. So far I have tried TOPSIS ranking (Euclidean distance basis). It works somehow, but I believe there may be a better approach of decision makind with data.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Are there other methods you would recommend for ranking based on multiple properties ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would be happy to learn from your experience !&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 08:32:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Decision-making-which-formula-is-closest-to-ideal/m-p/971615#M110547</guid>
      <dc:creator>RikkiTikkiTavi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-16T08:32:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Decision making : which formula is closest to ideal</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Decision-making-which-formula-is-closest-to-ideal/m-p/971681#M110549</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/100103"&gt;@RikkiTikkiTavi&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ranking based on euclidian distances are a good idea. However, when you have competing responses/properties, there might be some tradeoffs to consider, and euclidian distances may "shrink" and hide these tradeoffs.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For this reason, I tend to prefer using Pareto front to detect optimal solutions/formulations based on different emphasis between responses/properties. There is no dedicated JMP platform, but there may be several options to do this:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can create a large candidate dataset thanks to the models fitted to the responses using the&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/simulator.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Simulator&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/simulation-experiment.shtml#ww418246" target="_blank"&gt;Simulation Experiment&lt;/A&gt;) or by creating a large space filling design and adding the responses formula to your table. Then, you can &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/select-rows-in-data-tables.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Select Rows in Data Tables&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;and choose the option &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Select Dominant .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;The resultant set of rows is called the Pareto Frontier.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can try to check if some responses/properties are not correlated with each others, to reduce the output space dimensionality. Then, using &lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/principal-components.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;Principal Components&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;analysis or non-linear dimension reduction techniques like&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.1/#page/jmp/multivariate-embedding.shtml?_gl=1*1in9fl9*_up*MQ..*_ga*NTc5MjE4MTgwLjE3ODk1NjM4OTM.*_ga_BRNVBEC1RS*czE3ODk1NjM4OTIkbzEkZzAkdDE3ODk1NjM4OTIkajYwJGwwJGgw#" target="_blank"&gt;Multivariate Embedding&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(UMAP), you can reduce your multivariate space in a 2D or 3Dimensional space. Plotting the formula in this reduced responses space really helps visualizing the best candidates and tradeoffs.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;You can also do the previous options but instead of using directly the responses, you can use the normalized euclidian distances to avoid that a response may have a too strong influence on the others, and check the correlations between the responses distances to optimum. If you can reduce the dimensionality, the visualization is again greatly facilitated:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Victor_G_0-1789564616228.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/117244i22CC3C47EF6D1D44/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" alt="Victor_G_0-1789564616228.png" title="Victor_G_0-1789564616228.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Hope this other approach and few tricks may help you,&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 13:18:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Decision-making-which-formula-is-closest-to-ideal/m-p/971681#M110549</guid>
      <dc:creator>Victor_G</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-09-16T13:18:26Z</dc:date>
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