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    <title>topic Levey Jennings charts with subgroups gives wrong limits in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As indicated in other threads, there are several issues with applying Levey Jennings control charts. But when your data set has subgroups JMP just seems to miscalculate the control limits! The chart generated is for the average within subgroup but the calculated limits are for individual measurements as seen below, giving too wide limits.&amp;nbsp; It appears that division by the square root of subgroup size is missing from the formula.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="StefanC_0-1785921409852.png" style="width: 696px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/112042iC273B7FC8A2713D7/image-dimensions/696x360?v=v2" width="696" height="360" role="button" title="StefanC_0-1785921409852.png" alt="StefanC_0-1785921409852.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stefan&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 09:26:20 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>StefanC</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-08-05T09:26:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Levey Jennings charts with subgroups gives wrong limits</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962892#M110293</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As indicated in other threads, there are several issues with applying Levey Jennings control charts. But when your data set has subgroups JMP just seems to miscalculate the control limits! The chart generated is for the average within subgroup but the calculated limits are for individual measurements as seen below, giving too wide limits.&amp;nbsp; It appears that division by the square root of subgroup size is missing from the formula.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="StefanC_0-1785921409852.png" style="width: 696px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/112042iC273B7FC8A2713D7/image-dimensions/696x360?v=v2" width="696" height="360" role="button" title="StefanC_0-1785921409852.png" alt="StefanC_0-1785921409852.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stefan&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 09:26:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962892#M110293</guid>
      <dc:creator>StefanC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-08-05T09:26:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Levey Jennings charts with subgroups gives wrong limits</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962904#M110294</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.0/#page/jmp/options-panel-and-rightclick-chart-options.shtml#ww1140316" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Quality and Process Methods &amp;gt; Control Chart Builder &amp;gt; Control Chart Builder Options &amp;gt; Options Panel and Right-Click Chart Options&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_0-1785923844750.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/112045i7C80DB057494D3EE/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="jthi_0-1785923844750.png" alt="jthi_0-1785923844750.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.jmp.com/support/help/en/19.0/#page/jmp/statistical-details-for-leveyjennings-charts.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Statistical Details for Levey-Jennings Charts&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="jthi_1-1785923922725.png" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/112046i68417E1C2F16CF40/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="jthi_1-1785923922725.png" alt="jthi_1-1785923922725.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 10:09:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962904#M110294</guid>
      <dc:creator>jthi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-08-05T10:09:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Levey Jennings charts with subgroups gives wrong limits</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962925#M110296</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would prefer not to use the Levey Jennings chart. If the process is expected to have between group variation, I would probably use the Three way chart. If not, I would use the X bar and R chart.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stefan&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 12:16:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962925#M110296</guid>
      <dc:creator>StefanC</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-08-05T12:16:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Levey Jennings charts with subgroups gives wrong limits</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962936#M110297</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Then don't use it? And if there is a bug in JMP, please contact &lt;A href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/Support/ct-p/jmp-support" target="_self"&gt;JMP support&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2026 13:26:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Levey-Jennings-charts-with-subgroups-gives-wrong-limits/m-p/962936#M110297</guid>
      <dc:creator>jthi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-08-05T13:26:53Z</dc:date>
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