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    <title>topic Shape column : default markers? in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Shape-column-default-markers/m-p/912225#M107191</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;while waiting for&amp;nbsp;&lt;LI-MESSAGE title="new Column Property: Value Markers" uid="565358" url="https://community.jmp.com/t5/JMP-Wish-List/new-Column-Property-Value-Markers/m-p/565358#U565358" discussion_style_icon_css="lia-mention-container-editor-message lia-img-icon-idea-thread lia-fa-icon lia-fa-idea lia-fa-thread lia-fa"&gt;&lt;/LI-MESSAGE&gt;&amp;nbsp;, I tried to use a &lt;STRONG&gt;Shape Column&lt;/STRONG&gt; in Graph builder for better/consistent marker control:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_0-1762619064927.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/86681iD3501D44C719207C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_0-1762619064927.png" alt="hogi_0-1762619064927.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not bad ...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;but I need more details:&amp;nbsp; How can I specify one of the default markers?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_1-1762619462497.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/86682i33FFF4C230B12CAC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_1-1762619462497.png" alt="hogi_1-1762619462497.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;nice trick: empty entries are displayed with a "dot"&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR /&gt;but:&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Marker Drawing Mode - Outlined&lt;/STRONG&gt; doesn't work. why?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_3-1762619722050.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/86684iEC63A1F6E39AD8CB/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_3-1762619722050.png" alt="hogi_3-1762619722050.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;LI-SPOILER&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-jsl"&gt;Names Default to Here(1);
dt = Open( "$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp" );
Graph Builder(
	Variables( X( :height ), X( :height ), Y( :weight ) ),
	Elements( Position( 1, 1 ), Points( X, Y, Legend( 11 ), Set Shape Column( :Marker ) ) ),
	Elements( Position( 2, 1 ), Points( X, Y, Legend( 13 ) ) ),
	SendToReport(
		Dispatch( {}, "400", ScaleBox,
			{Legend Model( 11, Level Name( 0, "with Marker column", Item ID( "weight", 1 ) ) ),
			Legend Model(
				13,
				Level Name( 0, "standard plot", Item ID( "weight", 1 ) ),
				Type Properties( 0, "Marker", {Line Color( 36 )} ),
				Properties( 0, {Line Color( 36 )}, Item ID( "weight", 1 ) )
			)}
		),
		Dispatch( {}, "Graph Builder", FrameBox, {Marker Size( 6 ), Marker Drawing Mode( "Outlined" )} ),
		Dispatch( {}, "Graph Builder", FrameBox( 2 ), {Marker Size( 6 ), Marker Drawing Mode( "Outlined" )} )
	)
);&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;/LI-SPOILER&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Workaround to get the outlines: add another point plot with hollow markers &lt;BR /&gt;(c)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/610"&gt;@Jed_Campbell&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;LI-MESSAGE title="Pictures from the Gallery 10: Innovative Graph Builder Views (2025-US-30MP-2302)" uid="884350" url="https://community.jmp.com/t5/Abstracts/Pictures-from-the-Gallery-10-Innovative-Graph-Builder-Views-2025/m-p/884350#U884350" discussion_style_icon_css="lia-mention-container-editor-message lia-img-icon-occasion-thread lia-fa-icon lia-fa-occasion lia-fa-thread lia-fa"&gt;&lt;/LI-MESSAGE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2025 16:46:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>hogi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-11-08T16:46:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Shape column : default markers?</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Shape-column-default-markers/m-p/912225#M107191</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;while waiting for&amp;nbsp;&lt;LI-MESSAGE title="new Column Property: Value Markers" uid="565358" url="https://community.jmp.com/t5/JMP-Wish-List/new-Column-Property-Value-Markers/m-p/565358#U565358" discussion_style_icon_css="lia-mention-container-editor-message lia-img-icon-idea-thread lia-fa-icon lia-fa-idea lia-fa-thread lia-fa"&gt;&lt;/LI-MESSAGE&gt;&amp;nbsp;, I tried to use a &lt;STRONG&gt;Shape Column&lt;/STRONG&gt; in Graph builder for better/consistent marker control:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_0-1762619064927.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/86681iD3501D44C719207C/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_0-1762619064927.png" alt="hogi_0-1762619064927.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not bad ...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;but I need more details:&amp;nbsp; How can I specify one of the default markers?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_1-1762619462497.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/86682i33FFF4C230B12CAC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_1-1762619462497.png" alt="hogi_1-1762619462497.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;nice trick: empty entries are displayed with a "dot"&amp;nbsp; &lt;BR /&gt;but:&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Marker Drawing Mode - Outlined&lt;/STRONG&gt; doesn't work. why?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="hogi_3-1762619722050.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.jmp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/86684iEC63A1F6E39AD8CB/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="hogi_3-1762619722050.png" alt="hogi_3-1762619722050.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;LI-SPOILER&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-jsl"&gt;Names Default to Here(1);
dt = Open( "$SAMPLE_DATA/Big Class.jmp" );
Graph Builder(
	Variables( X( :height ), X( :height ), Y( :weight ) ),
	Elements( Position( 1, 1 ), Points( X, Y, Legend( 11 ), Set Shape Column( :Marker ) ) ),
	Elements( Position( 2, 1 ), Points( X, Y, Legend( 13 ) ) ),
	SendToReport(
		Dispatch( {}, "400", ScaleBox,
			{Legend Model( 11, Level Name( 0, "with Marker column", Item ID( "weight", 1 ) ) ),
			Legend Model(
				13,
				Level Name( 0, "standard plot", Item ID( "weight", 1 ) ),
				Type Properties( 0, "Marker", {Line Color( 36 )} ),
				Properties( 0, {Line Color( 36 )}, Item ID( "weight", 1 ) )
			)}
		),
		Dispatch( {}, "Graph Builder", FrameBox, {Marker Size( 6 ), Marker Drawing Mode( "Outlined" )} ),
		Dispatch( {}, "Graph Builder", FrameBox( 2 ), {Marker Size( 6 ), Marker Drawing Mode( "Outlined" )} )
	)
);&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;/LI-SPOILER&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Workaround to get the outlines: add another point plot with hollow markers &lt;BR /&gt;(c)&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.jmp.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/610"&gt;@Jed_Campbell&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;LI-MESSAGE title="Pictures from the Gallery 10: Innovative Graph Builder Views (2025-US-30MP-2302)" uid="884350" url="https://community.jmp.com/t5/Abstracts/Pictures-from-the-Gallery-10-Innovative-Graph-Builder-Views-2025/m-p/884350#U884350" discussion_style_icon_css="lia-mention-container-editor-message lia-img-icon-occasion-thread lia-fa-icon lia-fa-occasion lia-fa-thread lia-fa"&gt;&lt;/LI-MESSAGE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2025 16:46:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Shape-column-default-markers/m-p/912225#M107191</guid>
      <dc:creator>hogi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-11-08T16:46:13Z</dc:date>
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