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    <title>topic Re: Slight difference in p-values under “Combine” rule (before vs after entry) in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your explanation!&lt;BR data-start="76" data-end="79" /&gt;After checking carefully as you suggested, I found that the small difference in the &lt;EM data-start="163" data-end="173"&gt;p-values&lt;/EM&gt; actually comes from a slight difference in the &lt;EM data-start="221" data-end="230"&gt;F ratio&lt;/EM&gt; between the two situations.&lt;BR data-start="258" data-end="261" /&gt;Could you please help me understand &lt;STRONG data-start="297" data-end="347"&gt;why the F ratio itself is not exactly the same&lt;/STRONG&gt; in these two cases?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 08:52:27 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>happy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-10-21T08:52:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Slight difference in p-values under “Combine” rule (before vs after entry)</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Slight-difference-in-p-values-under-Combine-rule-before-vs-after/m-p/908763#M106733</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;您好，&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;我注意到在使用逐步回归和组合规则时，p 值存在细微但一致的差异。&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;在我的示例中（见下方截图），材料 (B–C) 显示的效果为：&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;输入模型前：Prob &amp;gt; F = 0.75127&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;输入模型后：Prob &amp;gt; F = 0.75103 &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;F 比和自由度完全相同 (F ≈ 0.104, df1 = 1, df2 = 16)，所以我想知道为什么 p 值不相同。&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;我的猜测是，JMP 在候选效应进入模型之前计算候选效应时会执行“临时完全拟合”或增量投影，这可能会与最终的完整模型拟合产生微小的数值差异。&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;有人可以确认 JMP 在组合规则中计算候选 p 值的方式是否确实如此吗？以及这个细微的（1e-4 级）差异是否是由于内部精度或四舍五入造成的？&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;谢谢！&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;&lt;FONT style="vertical-align: inherit;" dir="auto"&gt;JMP 专业版 17.1.0&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 08:35:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>happy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-21T08:35:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Slight difference in p-values under “Combine” rule (before vs after entry)</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Slight-difference-in-p-values-under-Combine-rule-before-vs-after/m-p/908777#M106734</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You could try changing the column formatting for the F-ration by right-clicking on it to verify if there is a difference&lt;/P&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 08:42:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Slight-difference-in-p-values-under-Combine-rule-before-vs-after/m-p/908777#M106734</guid>
      <dc:creator>jthi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-21T08:42:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Slight difference in p-values under “Combine” rule (before vs after entry)</title>
      <link>https://community.jmp.com/t5/Discussions/Slight-difference-in-p-values-under-Combine-rule-before-vs-after/m-p/908778#M106735</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your explanation!&lt;BR data-start="76" data-end="79" /&gt;After checking carefully as you suggested, I found that the small difference in the &lt;EM data-start="163" data-end="173"&gt;p-values&lt;/EM&gt; actually comes from a slight difference in the &lt;EM data-start="221" data-end="230"&gt;F ratio&lt;/EM&gt; between the two situations.&lt;BR data-start="258" data-end="261" /&gt;Could you please help me understand &lt;STRONG data-start="297" data-end="347"&gt;why the F ratio itself is not exactly the same&lt;/STRONG&gt; in these two cases?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 08:52:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>happy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-10-21T08:52:27Z</dc:date>
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